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2012-05-18T15:59:18Z

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2012-05-17T18:41:55Z

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2012-05-17T17:51:05Z

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2012-05-15T19:44:38Z

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2012-05-15T14:21:36Z

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2012-05-15T06:10:48Z

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2012-05-14T19:38:22Z

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Peter Schiff Books

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Michael Badnarik Books

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<h3>Good To Be King: The Foundation of our Constitutional Freedom</h3>
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Paul Craig Roberts Books

2011-08-25T19:05:39Z

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2011-08-25T19:04:20Z

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Ludwig von Mises Books

2011-08-25T07:57:13Z

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2011-08-25T07:56:36Z

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Welcome

2011-08-25T07:25:10Z

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Mark Dice Books

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<h3>The Illuminati: Facts & Fiction</h3>
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<h3>The Resistance Manifesto</h3>
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<h3>Big Brother: The Orwellian Nightmare Come True</h3>
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<h3>The New World Order: Facts & Fiction</h3>
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Mark Dice

2011-08-25T07:08:27Z

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John Stossel Books

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<h3>Myths, Lies and Downright Stupidity: Get Out the Shovel - Why Everything You Know is Wrong</h3>
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John Stossel

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Andrew Napolitano Books

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<h3>Lies the Government Told You: Myth, Power, and Deception in American History</h3>
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<h3>Constitutional Chaos: What Happens When the Government Breaks Its Own Laws</h3>
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Andrew Napolitano

2011-08-25T06:56:03Z

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Lew Rockwell Books

2011-08-25T06:54:06Z

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<h3>The Left, The Right and The State</h3>
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Lew Rockwell

2011-08-25T06:53:00Z

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Friedrich Hayek Books

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<h3>The Road to Serfdom</h3>
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Friedrich Hayek

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Murray Rothbard Books

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<h3>For A New Liberty</h3>
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Murray Rothbard

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Tom Woods Books

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<h3>Nullification: How to Resist Federal Tyranny in the 21st Century</h3>
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Tom Woods

2011-08-25T06:45:40Z

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Ayn Rand Books

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Ayn Rand

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Milton Friedman Books

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<h3>Free to Choose: A Personal Statement</h3>
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Ron Paul Books

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<h3>The Revolution: A Manifesto</h3>
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<h3>End The Fed</h3>
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<h3>Liberty Defined: 50 Essential Issues That Affect Our Freedom</h3>
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Milton Friedman

2011-08-25T00:38:45Z

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Milton Friedman is a free market economist, popular on the [http://www.youtube.com/user/LibertyPen LibertyPen YouTube channel].

===Books===
[[Milton Friedman Books]]

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Colin Ryan - When Men Become Truly Free

2011-08-25T00:24:01Z

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by [[by::Colin Ryan]]

There comes a time in the lives of men

When the ruthless and the criminally insane

Who rule the masses for their own gain

Make the fatal mistake of enjoying too much

Their psychopathic entertainment

And take too far their need to tread men down

By destroying any sense of a secure life

And taking away each and every freedom

Stealing the last piece of wealth they possess

So they cannot even care for their own

Stifling their voice with laws and corruption

Beating them down with rule by force

Where no justice exists for those being played

And there is no direction left for men to turn

When this insane game is taken this far

Comes the time when men have nothing left to lose

This is the time when the minds of men are freed

It is a time when man loses his fear of death

This is the time when a man becomes invincible

He becomes free to do whatever he must do

Without fear for his life or his future

He will take control of the destiny of the world

Away from the bloody hands of the soulless

Any action he takes he will take with assurety

That he must do something, for he has no future

So the act he chooses will be all the greater

For when faced with oblivion, and with no way out

He will take down as many of his oppressors with him

Gladly die in a selfless act to change the world's future

This day is coming soon, as it always does

The perverse minds of evil always self-destruct

As their addiction to our suffering can never be sated

Exerting control for their paranoia and fear of men

For every good man will take down these brutes

Every free man will give himself up for his brothers

For a man with nothing left becomes fully empowered

And he is the most unassailable weapon against evil.

Fall Of The Republic - The Presidency Of Barack H Obama

2011-08-25T00:21:51Z

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Last week, the head of the country's central bank floated the idea of dumping the greenback as the world's reserve currency, replacing it with an international currency. Thousands of people gathered to hear Barack Obama deliver key foreign policy speech on his current European tour. His vision for America's place in a New World Order... Returning vets could be a risk to our nation. We've gotta give them a stake in creating the kind of world order that I think all of us would like to see. ...and one of the ways it will drive the change is through global governance. I think the New World Order is emerging. This is a hoax and a scam which is designed to transfer wealth and power from the private sector to the government sector and from the government of the United States to a world government. And those people who have been yelling, "Oh, the UN's gonna take over global government... " [Conspiracy theorists.] They're conspiracy... They've been crazy, but now, they're right. And who got the money? Hundreds and hundreds of banks. Any bank or.. that has, access to the US Federal Reserve system. Can you tell us who they are? No. ...you know, financial terrorism. They have the ability to tweak the knob. I am proposing that the Federal Reserve be granted new authority. The ultimate goal of the carbon tax and the cap-and-trade is to destroy production. This energy tax is the largest tax increase in American history. We're actually creating a global warming police. So number one, they can come in, the Federal Government can come in, and inspect your house and send you the bill. We're setting up a global warming gestapo... One of the things, that if you talk to our generals, they are desperate for, is a civilian counterpart to our military forces. I am fierce. And this... is what I wear. Senator Barack Obama's presidential campaign is asking Missouri law enforcement to target anyone who lies or runs a misleading television ad. I've now been in 57 states. I think one left to go. The President, when he was in Europe last week, he met with the King of Saudi Arabia. He appeared to bow. President Obama today proposed something new, something called "prolonged detention." Pre-crime is where people are arrested and incarcerated to prevent crimes that they have not yet committed. Fall of the Republic The Presidency of Barack Obama It's the World Wrestling Federation. It's the Washington Wrestling Federation. They put on this show that they're bitter rivalries, you know, villains, and they really don't like each other. But behind closed doors, they buddy up for a drink and make deals. Both the Republican and Democratic Parties are owned by the same global elites. And on issues that matter to those global elites, they act as one. They wrap themselves in the American flag and they've talked about preserving American heritage and principals and all the while they're working to merge us into a New World Order where our sovereignty will be destroyed. We'll lose all connection with our American heritage. With Bush, you knew exactly what you were getting. It was... There was no iron fist in a velvet glove. It was just the iron fist, whereas with Obama you've got the velvet glove and the iron fist. ...you know, a very sharp guy, very smooth, knows exactly what he's doing. For that reason, far more dangerous than Bush. Ha, Ha, Ha. Well, at the end of last year I was willing to give Obama the benefit of the doubt. I thought it was premature to write this guy off. But now that he's been in office for a while, it's obvious that he is very tight with the Goldman Sachs and JP Morgans on Wall Street. And he is extremely compliant and pliant to the wishes of the large banks going back to the... what we saw with Robert Rubin under the Clinton administration, changing laws in favor of the banks. And he's not doing anything to stop the banks. He's helping the banks continue to do what they were doing under Bush. So in fact, he's just a continuation of Bush on the subject of markets and finance, which is the most important part of his policy right now. People who voted for Obama wanted real change and are getting platitudes. They're getting a lot of nice talk. But nothing in the way of concrete change is taking place. In this town, business as usual. There's one puppet master that controls the left, and there's a... The same puppet master controls the right. They control the Republican Party and they control the Democratic Party. This is not a party issue. This is not a left-right issue. The question is, "Who should government serve?" And it should serve the people. In fact, government is just a tool of a dominant minority that uses economics and government law to enforce upon the public various mandates. The right-left paradigm in the US, in US politics, is taken directly from the commercial world or the corporate world. In the business world you have Coke-Pepsi; you have McDonald's-Burger King; you've got AT&T and Verizon; you know, you've got duopolies. And a duopoly gives the illusion of there being some competition and some choice. And it looks a little bit better than a monopoly. So, for example in communist Russia, if they had communist Russia red and communist Russia chartreuse, there would have been the illusion of choice and something akin to democracy in Russia. But they simply said, "Forget it. We're just gonna go with red." In the US, they have this left-right paradigm which, unfortunately, it doesn't take them out of the, the hard, cold fact that there is no choice. There's no social justice. There's only one choice, which is to supply more rent to the rent-seekers who have now taken the whole system hostage. We've seen the limitations on government whittled away. We have seen this erosion to the point where today it seems like nobody does care and right now in Washington, DC, we have seen a fall of the Republic. If the United States doesn't have its Bill of Rights and Constitution, it doesn't exist anymore. It's just more real estate, more dirt. And that's what these global corporatists want. They want to completely dismantle the Bill of Rights and Constitution and they're doing that right now. This is the fall of the Republic. Our nation is dying. "We The People" that live in this fine country need to stand up, get involved, and take the system back. It's the Bill of Rights and Constitution that we owe allegiance to, not to a political party and not to politicians that wrap themselves in the red, white and blue, while at the same time they destroy everything that that sacred flag stands for. So in the old days you used to have this globe that... with 180-some-odd countries, and a few of those countries had a lot of power, like the Soviet Union, and the United Kingdom and the United States at various times. But today you might better look at that globe and say that it's surrounded by huge clouds swirling around the planet. They know no national boundaries. They don't follow any specific sets of laws. And these are the big corporations. They basically control politicians around the world because they have all the money, and politicians always need money to get elected or to run their governments if they're... if they're not democratically elected politicians. They control the mainstream press either through outright ownership or advertising budgets. They have massive amounts of lobbyists in Washington that have tremendous influence on our President and, and Congress. And they really are calling the shots. They form partnerships with the Chinese and the Taiwanese and the Tibetans, or with the Israelis and Arab nations, with Brazilians and Indians, with whatever country and whatever group of people has resources that they covet. And they... So for the first time in history we really have this new form of a... of an empire. Barack Obama is a puppet of the New World Order to bring in a World Bank, to destroy the economy of this country, and to bring in global governance. And no matter how likable the fellow is, we as citizens of this country need to stand up and say, "No." We have to stand up to preserve a Republic here and rule of law, which is under dire threat. We don't want to live under a world government of the corporations, by the corporations and for the corporations. I don't want to believe it and that's probably what holds me back on it. But I'm certainly seeing enough indication that it could be true. Absolutely, because they're always talking about Mexico and the United States and Canada ending up like Europe. And there's things done politically that seem to take us in that direction. And so I think it's incumbent upon all of us as American citizens to pay attention. This move to world government is not about roses, and happiness, and peace and a better life. It's about enslavement. They said in their own writings from the earliest times to the present, the world they're bringing in is to be a world where everyone who is born, or will be allowed to be born, would be born to serve the state. That would be their sole function. That's if they had a job for you to fulfill or a need for you. July 4th, 2009. Across the United States citizens gathered to celebrate the Republic's founding, 233 years before. Most people in the crowds were aware that America was going in the wrong direction, that things were changing for the worse. But few could grasp the sheer magnitude of corruption and looting running rampant like a disease through the heart of the nation. The engine of America's greatness is not just its liberties but the people's willingness to fight to keep them. Hundreds of other nations have had much larger populations and greater resources, but have never produced one-tenth of the wealth, science and art that the United States has. Why? In America, you had an amazing situation because you had, you had the Founding Fathers who figured out that they could deconstruct the Monarchy in such a way... and then reproduce it with the three primary branches of government, in a way that would create checks and balances and separation of powers. So you could have room, therefore, for individuals to work within the context of a cooperative, which is a democratic system of government, but it would still have enough room for individuals to rise up and become profitable and self-sustaining and rich in the... in the pursuit of happiness, without becoming dictatorial. But unfortunately, over the years, since all of those separation of powers have been cut away and all of the... the beautiful design by the Founding Fathers has been co-opted by one corporate entity, one communist corporate entity, you don't have that anymore. So what we have... We're back to where we were before the revolution. You have one monolithic state. For the first hundred years or so of the United States, after the 1700s when we freed ourselves from British rule, no corporation was permitted... was given a charter in the United States, unless it served the public good. It had to prove that. And then its charter only lasted for 10 years or sometimes as long as the project to build a bridge or a canal or something lasted. But it... it had to be up for review and it could only get chartered if it was... if it was shown that it was serving the public interest. That changed, primarily because John D. Rockefeller kind of bribed Delaware and New Jersey, to begin with, into accepting a different system where he said, "Listen. If I pay you lots of money in terms of taxes, etc., I want to be licensed to not have to serve the public good. I want to be able to get around the law." And, state after state after state changed at that point. In the United States, our Constitution and Bill of Rights recognizes that individuals have innate freedoms that can never be taken away by any government. For the first time in history, the people were unbound to reach for their full potential, producing and out-competing every other nation on earth. The rights of free speech, self-defense, private property, due process of law and many others, ignited a revolution in human development that threaten the despotic rule of monarchs and tyrants worldwide. But, the corrupt elites had studied history. They knew that great civilizations could only fall from within. They know from previous experience and history that civilizations come and go, and dwindle. They know the reasons why they come and go. Isn't the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn't it our responsibility to bring that about? --Maurice Strong, founder of the U.N. Environment Programme, from his Opening Speech, Rio Earth Summit, 1992. Maurice Strong is the man who said that they would never allow another country to rise up as powerful as America. It will never be allowed to happen again. And he said, "The best thing we can do is to tear down all the factories, all the top commerce of the United States, and level it and give it back to Nature." That... so that was the advice from this character, who has tremendous power at the United Nations, and was picked up and groomed by Rockefeller himself. Over the past decade, since the Kennedy assassination, approximately, you've had an ongoing oligarchical transformation of virtually every country in the world. And in the United States, it's taken the form of an oligarchical counterrevolution against the reforms of the 1930s with the Wall Street interest asserting itself as more and more dominant. And once bankers and oligarchs have power, the things that they do, you could call them a policy, you could call it something like a tropism, it's like the way a plant responds. Naturally, since they're oligarchs, they're gonna try to downgrade the standard of living of the vast majority of the population. They're gonna claim that the world is overpopulated, that industrialization, industrial pollution, and overpopulation are the main problems that face the world. And they're generally going to try to crush and mortify any kind of popular democracy or mass movements with any kind of progressive content. Nations rise and fall. They knew how debt could never be recuperated. They knew that disease or prolonged war could wipe out the population and the future populations that pay off debt. So these guys all work together. That's why it's no surprise that today you have Lord Rothschild coming out pushing the latest scam or religion that we must all believe in, which is global warming; which his personal bank, his family's bank in Switzerland, will be in charge of. They've run the system, the whole economic system of the world, for the last two-and-a-half hundred years, so why shouldn't they also run the economic system for the next few hundred years. The question of a ruling class, oligarchy as a ruling class, is posed by Plato in The Republic, where we find that oligarchy is a constitution full of many evils, where the rich dominate the government by buying it, and the average individual or the poor count for absolutely nothing. Oligarchy is a frame of mind. In other words, if you're a banker, this is already a world view. It's a world outlook, and it implies the policies that have got us here, right, Malthusian policies, zero-growth policies, driving down the standard of living, attempts to wipe out all kinds of mass institutions that might be a countervailing force. This is a scientific dictatorship which Bertrand Russell said, and the Huxleys said, both Aldous and Julian Huxley said, they would bring in the scientifically-controlled society. It's not just family planning, which really means abortion and so on. It's global planning, which is... which is, literally, sterilization and abortion, worldwide for the ideal reduced society, and not just... across the board through genetics, through the genome projects, through the constant IQ testing... Globalization has economically destroyed the world. You've got at least 40 to 50,000 people who die every day worldwide, from starvation, malnutrition and diseases which can be cured for pennies, such as diarrhea. And if you ask one of these Malthusian oligarchs, "Don't you think that something should be done to raise the standard of living in Africa or South Asia?" They'll say, "No, we can to do that. That would ruin the planet. That would oppress Mother Earth." So that's oligarchy. Class consciousness, in this sense, is absolutely essential. If you think that bankers are the same as you, you're wrong. F. Scott Fitzgerald once told Hemingway, "You know, the rich are different from us." And Hemingway said, "Yeah, they have more money." And F. Scott Fitzgerald replied, "No, it's something much deeper." It's a whole different world. To be an oligarch, to be a Rockefeller or something of this sort means that you're in a completely different world with values which are the reverse of human values. Now, if you allow the oligarchs to continue to dominate, the destruction of world civilization is a matter of a few decades at the very, very most. So, choose. To force their agenda through, the elites are employing one of their favorite tools: artificial crisis creation, also known as the Hegelian dialectic of problem-reaction-solution. You never want a serious crisis to go to waste. And what I mean by that: it's an opportunity to do things that you'd think that you could not do before. The earth's ruling elite are first and foremost monopoly men. The founder of the Rockefeller Clan summed it up simply when he said, "Competition is a sin." Rockefeller himself said that competition was a sin. And people quipped at that, thinking it was one of his little jokes. He made many jokes about saving pennies and stuff like this. But in reality he was telling you a truth; that competition, to a man like him, who worked for a much larger organization, competition truly was a sin. And, the cartels have been formed ever since, have become much bigger, more powerful; cartels which can literally command governments, sometimes to go to war on their behalf, have occurred. The economic crash of 2008 and 2009 was an engineered crisis designed to cripple sovereign nations globally to make away for a world currency and a new Bank of the World. China's holding, what, $1.5 trillion worth? All over the world they're holding US currencies. They want to get out of them in a way where they're not going to lose on there investments. There's going to be a world currency. There's going to be a new reserve currency. They're going to push it through the IMF. That's going to be the banksters that are going to be in charge of it. It's going to happen and it's going to happen sooner rather than later. There was also a question to Geithner, "Do you think that the US dollar ought to be replaced?" And he... he blew it. He had a moment of, of candor where he said, "Yeah, we're, we're considering that." So on that day the dollar went down one percent within a couple of minutes. ...a Chinese government proposal about a... about a global currency and about the IMF regulations. The new IMF idea about, you know, the general agreements to borrow and then having a faster, ability to disburse to the margin markets. As I understand this proposal, it's a proposal designed to increase the use of the IMF's special drawing rights. And, we're actually quite open to that suggestion. Timothy Geithner's comment about the global currency's not off the table because, it's not off the table and it's going to come. The whole world is ready to bail out of bucks. They just wanna do it in a way where they're not gonna lose on their investments. That's all that's going on. All the people around the world, the Japanese who have a trillion, the Chinese who have a trillion, the Saudis have a trillion, the Europeans something something similar; they're all gonna dump it at the same time. The rush for the exits. And that will then create hyperinflation. When America finishes supplying the manpower and the military for standardization of the world into the one system -- and they want a secular world society, with a hint of greening and Gaea worship for sustainability reasons -- America, as they're finishing off this agenda, they'll be pulling the rug from underneath Americans at home at same time towards the latter stages. When the dollar starts to slide -- and this was always the nightmare of Paul Adolph Volker, who is now sitting in the Obama White House -- once the dollar starts to go, there's nothing to stop it. There's no useful way you that can stop it once it begins to gather momentum. So I think we're facing the probability of some form of dollar panic combined with hyperinflation some time during the Obama presidency. They're now pulling the rug away from under the feet of the people. They're becoming rapidly a non-manufacturing country. Any country that can't manufacture its own goods even for self-defense, therefore is no... no longer sovereign, independent and is able to sustain itself; which tells you that this is all part of their plan. It started with the very beginning when you establish that there was a Federal Reserve system given the power of the state to create money out of nothing and to do so without any regard to will of the people, without any regard to what's behind the money system; in other words, strictly political and economic motives for the bankers and the politicians. Once you've granted that power to a group -- the Federal Reserve system -- the economic crisis was inevitable. This has happened before. Every time in history when the government was given the power -- or a group of banks in conjunction with the government -- was given the power to expand the money supply at will, those economic systems always wound up in crisis and always collapsed. So there's no reason to believe that the United States was given some kind of a "get out of jail free" card, an exemption from the processes of history. So the economic crisis began at the very beginning and, as a matter of fact, when the founders of the Federal Reserve system met on Jekyll Island back in 1910, and were drafting the... the Federal Reserve Act, one of the things they discussed was how to pass on the inevitable losses to the taxpayers. They knew that inevitably something like this would happen and they knew that there had to be some way to... to get out of it without destroying the banks, of course, because they were the banks, and they said, "Aha, we'll go into partnership with the government. We'll take our cartel agreement and pass it into law -- call it the Federal Reserve Act -- and we'll make the taxpayer come online and be responsible to bail us out if and when, when the failure finally comes." Who's gonna soak up the derivatives. Who's gonna soak up the debt, and who's gonna be penalized. And right now it looks like Wall Street's getting bailed out and the little guy in the middle of Main Street America are all going to, pay... pay the penalty. Can the economy be turning around here? Are happy days here again? And can we actually have growth without jobs? Is this an oxymoron: jobless recovery? We're going into the greatest depression. There will be no job growth. Unemployment will continue to escalate. Along with it so too will crime, poverty, kidnappings, boss-nappings. And the more things spin out of control, the harder the hammer's going to come down by the federal government to keep everyone in control. Power is much, much more important to them than money is. Money is only a ways to the means. Power is the end result. The elites' main goal is to destroy national sovereignty and individual independence. To consolidate their grip on power, the banksters create artificial debt bubbles that are mathematically impossible to pay back. These are those sinister toxic assets, the complex financial instruments that they talk about, but never really name. They're paper based on paper. They're credit default swaps, collateralized debt obligations, mortgaged-backed securities, asset-backed securities, structured investment vehicles, auction rate securities, and so on down the line. It's an immense mass of cancerous, fictitious, speculative paper, bloated in value, impossible to bail out. Triage the derivatives on their books. There's no way to bail out a 1.5 quadrillion dollar black hole of derivatives, but nevertheless they tried. The Wall Street cronies are crooks. If you leave the vault to the bank open, these people are gonna help themselves. The job of the government is to make sure there's somebody there to make sure the vault is closed and very few people have the combination. I'm William K. Black, Associate Professor of Economics and Law at the University of Missouri, Kansas City. I was a senior regulator in a number of different positions during the heart of the savings and loan crisis. On a staff level, I led the re-regulation of the savings and loan industry. The purpose of regulation and effective criminal prosecution is to make sure that cheaters don't prosper, that honest manufacturers win in competition. The primary driver of the current crisis is accounting control fraud. These are frauds led by the CEOs of the major lending institutions and major banks and institutional buyers of toxic waste product. How did it start? It started with mortgages, particularly non-prime mortgages. In September of 2004, the FBI warned that there was an epidemic of mortgage fraud -- their words -- and that this epidemic of mortgage fraud would cause an economic crisis at least as large as the savings and loan debacle, if it wasn't stopped. The FBI found that 80% of the mortgage fraud was being induced by the lenders, not by the borrowers. You know, much of the rage has been... been against the borrowers. But if you want rage, it should be at the CEOs who became fabulously wealthy by following a strategy based on fraud. The Wall Street people and their friends here at the Federal Reserve and at the US Treasury and down... down the Washington Mall here at the US Capitol, that's where the damage was done; and if people want to vent their anger, they need to vent it against these people. Between the Bush-Paulson administration and the Obama-Summers-Geithner-Volker administration, there's really a total continuity of economic and financial policy. Geithner was on board at the Fed, the New York Fed, dealing with all these institutions. He didn't get it. And then we had this fellow who came up afterward, Mr. Friedman. He was on the Goldman Sachs Board and he didn't last too long as a Fed Chairman. Why? Because he had a conflict of interest. Is it possible that there's so much conflict of interest here that all you folks don't even realize that you're helping people that you're associated with and you should be recusing yourself for America's, ethics? I, you know, I behaved with the... with the... You don't think you should have recused yourself when you asked Lehman to go into bankruptcy you didn't put Bear Stearns in bankruptcy and then you folded Merrill Lynch? And, I mean, isn't there some point where you gotta say, "Hey, I gotta conflict of interest here?" You don't feel any kind of scintilla of ethics on this thing at all? Totally. I... I operated very consistently within the ethic guidelines I had as Secretary of the Treasury and when it became... when it became clear that... that we had some very significant issues with Goldman Sachs and with... with... Why didn't you recuse yourself then? ...with... with Morgan Stanley. What I did then... It would have been very wrong for me to recuse myself. What I did was I went and got a waiver from the ethics agreement because when we had concerns... Who is in charge of the ethics agreement? What? Who is in charge of the ethics agreement that you got a waiver? We... we... we have... we have a office of... of ethics at Treasury and we have a White House ethics office. So you got it from the legal counsel from the White House? We... we... we got it from the... the... the government ethics office. So we had Snow, we had Paulson, now we have Geithner; all these people cut from the same bolt of cloth. These are not independent Treasury Secretaries. They're part of the problem, not part of any solution, and it would have been nice to see President Obama effect some change in Treasury, but he... of course he went and got a Wall Street insider as his Treasury Secretary. Everything that's speculative, parasitical, cancerous, bloated, from all these administrations going back to Carter and even beyond, comes together in the Obama administration. With Volker, with Summers, who's part of the economic crimes under Clinton: the guy who brought you derivatives and the abolition of the Glass-Steagall firewall. You could not have gotten a more perfect setup for a takeover from a previous government, the Bush regime and then the Obama regime. Now there are some authors out there already saying that it's the same bunch, and it's true. It's... it's the same bankers who put the same boys forward. Obama, far from helping the public and giving them something new, or giving them more power and say over their own affairs, has actually sided immediately with the bankers who, once again... once again have robbed the public blind and now they must get bailed out by your tax money. Obama does it all with left cover. He makes you think that he's somehow different from Bush, that this is somehow benevolent, that he cares about the poor. And in reality, this is the cruelest hoax and the most bogus sham. Obama is 1,000% devoted to Wall Street interests. When Wall Street says, "Jump," Obama jumps. And again, it's about 30 to 40 dollars for the bankers for every dollar that ever reaches an unemployed person or somebody who's on food stamps or some infrastructure building for highways. The hope with the Obama administration was that it would move us beyond this. But, unfortunately, what we're seeing more and more is that Obama has brought in many of the economists who bought into this system in the past that... Larry Summers is a... is a very good example. And... and... and... and so many of his economists, many of the people there; you can really almost, at this point, relate Obama to Hoover, who did something similar in his presidency, as opposed to Franklin Roosevelt, for example, who brought in a very fresh team. So, the concern here now is that Obama's falling into this trap of bringing in the same people who put us in the position that we're in today and other people who buy into the same theories that brought us here: this mutant form of capitalism. Presumably, what most politicians want to come in and say, "Hey, the problems of the past? They're due to the old guy, and I'm cleaning house and I'm gonna bring in a new team, and don't blame us for the things we've inherited." Can't say, "You know, those policies of the past, that came before were insane," because you've got the guy that was one of the key architects of those policies. People need to stop having allegiance to their political party. They need to have allegiance to the Bill of Rights, the Constitution, and what has made our Republic so special: the basic human rights and dignity that every citizen of this country inherently has. Not because it's some right given to us by government, but because our Bill of Rights, our Constitution, enshrines that these are inalienable rights given to us by God, that we inherently have as sentient, free, conscious beings. But instead the public cheers on the Republicans as they win or cheers on the Democrats as they defeat the Republicans. It's an endless, staged, gladiatorial event. Special interests own both parties and they project this false left-right paradigm up as like a movie screen and behind that, behind the throne the establishment is able to control our society and engineer it into this high-tech police state. If you try to let the finance oligarchs who created the crisis turn around and say they're the doctors who are gonna get you out of the crisis, they will dig you deeper and deeper into the bottomless abyss of world economic depression, financial collapse, and disintegration. The Democrats have really done more to destabilize the American economy and to help the big banks on Wall Street than the Republicans have done. I would imagine that the Republicans know a little bit more about finance and markets; enough that when someone like Goldman Sachs asks the Congress to change laws as they did in the 90s to do away with position limits on the futures contracts, the Republicans would have said, "No way. That's completely inconsistent with any notion of a fair market." But the Democrats, I have a feeling, are just not financially literate enough to say, "No." And I think that Goldman has very shrewdly positioned themselves with the Democrats because the Democrats typically, like in many NGOs that I've run into, they seem to have a... a complete inability to comprehend these issues of markets and finance and how it relates to social justice. So under the Democrats we also saw the repeal of Glass-Steagall. Glass-Steagall said there's an inherent conflict of interest between the commercial banking side, which is the lending side, and the investment banking side, which is taking an ownership position. And we have to end this conflict of interest by separating these two entities. You can have investment banks and you can have commercial banks, but they have to be separate. Do you think that the repeal of Glass-Steagall was a tragic mistake? No, I don't think so. You could be a commercial bank like Chase Manhattan or you could be an investment house like JP Morgan. Or, a bank like Bank of America or an investment house like Merrill Lynch. But you couldn't be both. And as the 90s went on the... the screaming hyenas of Wall Street were demanding that this prohibition, this regulation, be abolished. This was an illegal and inappropriate form of casino. The derivatives were being used and they were being unregulated and the people were getting 30:1, 40:1, 50:1 and sometimes 100:1 profits on the way up. And remember, derivatives are a zero-sum game, so there's nothing there. It's not like a piece of stock in, in General Electric or Ford or something like that, where there's supposed to be some value. Derivatives have no value. But the very people: Summers, and... and... and Geithner, and all the people at... at Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan who created these things made not millions or billions, but trillions on the way up, and now that these things are crashing, the very same folks, the very same folks are now put in charge of regulating these things and in charge of the bailout and they are giving money to the very rascals that created this problem, took the profits. The problem cannot be fixed. And this is on Obama's watch, right now. You have so many different schemes and mechanisms at play. It's sort of like after there's a blackout. You know, people in some parts of the country have been known to loot the local stores. You know, they go in, they grab the televisions and they grab the stereos. And basically, that's what the Wall Street gang has done. They've just engaged in this massive looting of... of... of money from their own companies and... and now from the US Treasury. There was a lady called Brooksley Born. She was the head of the Commodity Futures Trading Commission under Clinton. And she said, "Look, we have these derivatives. Why don't we at least make them reportable? So we know how many there are and where they're... where they are." And she writes in a biographical account: she said, "I picked up the phone and Larry Summers was screaming at me that I was interfering with the wonderful inventiveness and ingenuity of Wall Street and their ability to come up with new financial products such as these derivatives." Brooksley Born was the chair of the Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC), which regulates many financial derivatives. And she said there's a grave danger out there in the form of these credit default swaps. And credit default swaps are a exotic financial derivative or moderately exotic financial derivative that were sold on a bright shining lie that they were supposed to make markets more efficient. In fact they allow utterly insane gambles and they're really great devices for accounting fraud as well. She actually says, "I'm thinking of adopting this regulation." The Clinton administration goes berserk, and in particular Larry Summers, but also Rubin. Now behind Larry Summers there's another layer: Bob Rubin of Goldman Sachs, the Clinton administration and Citibank. And he also thought that derivatives were a wonderful thing for the US economy and he made sure that they were never regulated. Also, we can't forget Alan Greenspan over at the Federal Reserve. Now, you look at Summers. He is sitting in the White House today making policy for Obama. Summers tells Obama what to do. Summers tells Geithner what to do. He's also got some of his hatchet people in the administration. Mary Schapiro runs the Securities and Exchange Commission. She refuses to ban naked short selling and other market manipulations. You've also another guy called Gensler over at the Commodity Futures Trading Commission today. He is an acolyte and a supporter of the derivatives bubble. We made the new CFTC chair a guy who had helped to kill Brooksley Born's reform initiatives, and... and we just did this under the Obama administration. This was a preregistered, preorganised, predetermined event. Anybody who knows that if you allow the banks to become unregulated financial institutes with tsunami-like, weapons-of-mass-destruction-like financial instruments like derivatives; to allow that to run up to levels that are fifty, a hundred, two hundred times the gross domestic product, with no value, they know that they are taking the profits on going up; but they also know that the end result is the destruction and gutting of this economy. The scam is simple. The insiders by hard assets and political influence as the fiat bubbles expand. And then, at a time of their choosing, they purposefully implode the bubble. You've got a very small group of people and the Federal Reserve and the global central banking system and the Bank for International Settlements in Switzerland who are purposefully managing the boom and bust, credit supply, credit contraction, money supply growth, money supply contraction, to create artificial roller coasters and artificial volatility that they can trade around without taking any risk. It doesn't cost them any money. And if they do make a mistake because they're, as George Bush said, "Oh, the bankers on Wall Street are drunk." Yes, I'm certain. There's no question about it. Wall Street got drunk. That's one of the reasons I asked you to turn off your TV cameras. Let's say they walk in one day and they push the wrong button and they loose the bank a billion or 5 billion or 100 billion, they can appeal to the government to bail them out. It's a totally asymmetric relationship between bankers and the rest of the economy. If they make a mistake, they get bailed out. If everyone else makes a mistake, they get put in jail, called a terrorist, and we never hear from them again. But it's a more sophisticated form of slavery, and we are going through it today. We see that taxation is going up all the time with a... with a supposed crash of the banks that was not happening out of the blue. It was set up for this time. They could have kept it going for a another few years, if it suited them, and then crashed all the bubbles. But now is the time. As they say in their own writings, now is the time. One of the great benefits of an economic model from an economist's standpoint is you can basically get whatever results you want. You can manipulate the inputs to make that happen. And that makes it a very easy tool to use to hoodwink other people. These manufactured, these engineered financial catastrophes are the result of a central banking system that has ability to add and subtract credit, add and... add and subtract dollars and money at will to create this roller coaster effect, because, unlike most people, the banks are able to make profits as easily on the way down as they can on the way up in any given situation. Volatility is great for banks and professionals. Volatility is not great for the... the... most... most average people. Their operatives in government and media then hold the economy hostage by issuing the ultimatum: give us unlimited bailout money or the economy dies. What's being used is what I call -- to try to get the money -- is what I call the suicide threat where, you know, if anybody has ever seen the movie Blazing Saddles, the sheriff is surrounded by hostile town folks, he takes out his gun, points it at his head and says, you know, "Don't move or I'll shoot." Well, that's what the big banks are saying, you know, "Give us unlimited cash or we'll die. And if we die, you'll die because we're too big to fail." It is a false flag attack because Hank Paulson will get up in front of Congress and say, "We need 700 billion dollars because that thing, that existential threat, the market, is attacking us and we need this handout to fight Mr. Market. Mr. Market is out there. We need to fight Mr. Market. It's an existential threat." Meanwhile he's the one... He is Mr. Market. He's the one causing the problem. We had Paulson, a representative of Goldman Sachs, who happened to be running the US Treasury, came forward with a hysterical briefing for the Congress saying, "We, the Wall Street bankers, demand 700 billion dollars in bailouts." So they say, "Yes, we'll give you all the money you need." Well, why don't, you know...? These are arsonists: Paulson, Tim... Tim Geithner, Bernanke. They're arsonists. They're asking for more matches. And the Congress is saying, "Who do we make the check out to? Who do we sell these matches to? Who do, who do, well who do we sell these matches to? Is a ton of matches enough? Can we send you some gasoline to go with those matches?" Like, "Yes please!" "Don't change our management. Don't pay us what assets are worth. Pay us way more than what our assets are really worth. Don't make us use honest accounting. Allow us to lie." We've just, under congressional pressure, changed the accounting rules for the express purpose of making sure that the big banks don't have to report honest losses. The only way they can pass this bill is by creating and sustaining a panic atmosphere. That atmosphere is not justified. Many of us were told in private conversations that if we voted against this bill on Monday, that the sky would fall, the market would drop two or three thousand points the first day, another couple thousand the second day. And a few members were even told that there would be martial law in America if we voted, "No." That's what I call fear mongering. We have, you know, people in the government threatening martial law or things to... to get their way in the Executive branch against Congress. You know... you know, if you put all these signs together it doesn't look good at all. To the extent we are a democracy we're sort of a hair breadth's away from a police state. Congress aided the bankers in carrying out the biggest heist in history with the so called banker bailout of 2008. The bailout money, the 13 trillion or so dollars that have been given to the banks, is sitting on the balance sheet of the banks, and that is incurring interest costs and that's going to precipitate the need to flush the system with more cash. And at some point the dam will break and you're gonna have very high inflation, some predict hyperinflation. You can not print phantom money out of thin air, backed by nothing, and producing practically nothing, without destroying the world economy. So unless we cut out the toxic funds, the toxic elements of this economy, every time we put in money on this bailout, it's just feeding the fire. It's not making things better. What should have happened is that those banks and investment banks should have been seized. They should have been seized by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation. Those are zombie banks. The Chase Manhattan, JP Morgan Chase, Bank of America, Citibank, Wells Fargo, Wachovia, so on down the line to AIG and the insurance realm. These are zombie institutions, insolvent, bankrupt. The only thing to do with them is to seize them, put them them through Chapter 11 bankruptcy. That'll probably turn into Chapter 7 bankruptcy, liquidation. And above all, triage the derivatives on their books. There's no way to bailout a 1.5 quadrillion dollar black hole of derivatives. But nevertheless, they tried. They will, of course, try to regain some of this money back, but the debts, unlike any other period in history, are now a quantum size bigger than the entire global GDP by a factor of 50 to 100. It's... it's almost infinite amount of debt. If you really look at the numbers, because of the massive, massive debt... And right now, total debt in this country is about 375% of the Gross Domestic Product, and that's not including derivatives. If you put the derivatives in, it's probably 20 to 30 times Gross Domestic Product. It's beyond what anybody has ever even considered. While they were looting North America into the ground, the international banking syndicate was simultaneously executing the same scam in over 100 other nations. So, who got the money? ...to financial institutions in Europe and other countries. Which ones? I don't know. Half-a-trillion dollars and you don't know who got the money? Well, Obama's got one difficulty with this Congress: it's the number of freshmen Democrats that got elected. Many of these people know that they got their seats from... and... and... many of which got seats in... in... the Senate and Congress from long-held Republican seats. They know that the the people back in their states and in... in their constituencies will not tolerate this any longer. So, up against the Republicans and the blue dog Democrats are these freshmen congressmen, Democratic congressmen and senators, and they're not... They don't seem like they want to go along with that program. So, if there's any hope it'll come from these freshmen. The Constitution says, "No money shall be drawn from the Treasury but in consequence of appropriations made by law." Do you think...? This money is not drawn from the Treasury. Well, let's talk about that. Do you think its consistent with the spirit of that provision of the Constitution for a group like the FOMC to hand out a half-a-trillion dollars to foreigners, without any action by this Congress? Congress approved it in the Federal Reserve Act. When was that? Quite a long time ago. I don't know the exact date. I think 19... The original Act is 1914, I believe. I don't know whether this provision was in 1914 or not, but the Federal Reserve Act was in 1913. Alright, and at that time the entire Gross National Product of this country was well under half-a-trillion dollars, wasn't it? I don't know. Is it safe to say that nobody in 1913 contemplated that your small little group of people would decide to hand out half-a-trillion dollars to foreigners? What the bailout legislation really did was give a blank check backed up by US taxpayers to offshore megabanks. Of course, Congress has oversight. If you read the Constitution, our founders were very clear. Anything to do with taxes and money is put into the hands of both houses of Congress together. Both houses of Congress together must approve it because it's a "buck", because that's why we fought the Revolution. Taxation without representation was part of it. Foreign banks: Soci?t? G?n?rale of France, about 10 billion for a French bank; Deutsche Bank of Germany... Did Deutsche Bank need the money? How much did did they get from the bailout? Well, they told us they got 12 billion from the bailout. ...and Barclay's Bank of Britain, 10 billion. So, you're up to almost 50 billion dollars to bail out a series of foreign banks that were derivatives counterparties of AIG, plus Goldman Sachs. This is the biggest swindle -- not only in the history of the United States -- this is the biggest swindle and transfer of wealth in the history of the western countries. ...and we've seen all these cronies from Wall Street, with the combination to the vaults around the country and they've just looted the Treasury and the banks and, and the securities industry dry. This is, by probably an order of magnitude, the biggest fraud in... in history. Over the next 10 months, 23.7 trillion was stolen from the US Treasury. The gentleman from North Carolina, Mr. McHenry. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and the tune of 23 trillion, 700 billion dollars worth of taxpayer exposure for the bailouts is quite striking. The calculation right now is that with Obama, we've got 24 trillion dollars as a line of credit available only to Wall Street banks, insurance companies, credit cards, mutual fund companies and others, but only financial institutions. 24 trillion dollars of money from the Federal Reserve, from the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation and from the Treasury in the form of the bailout of October, 2008. The Federal Reserve, the private holding company for the offshore banks, arrogantly told Congress and the American people that it was none of their business what the private banks did with the people's money. One very interestingly exchange: Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont asking Bernanke, "We have given upwards of two trillion dollars to various financial institutions. You've gotta tell me, where did the money go?" And Bernanke simply stonewalls and says, "I won't tell you." And who got the money? Hundreds and hundreds of banks; any bank or... that has access to the US Federal Reserve system. Can you tell us who they are? No. Do you have to be a large, greedy, reckless financial institution to apply for these monies? There is no subsidy. There is no capital involved. There is no gift involved. It is a collateralized, short-term liquid loan that is both over-collateralized and is recourse to the company itself. We have never lost a penny doing it. And how can other institutions make..., get... get... those loans as well? According to the law, we are supposed to be lending to depository institutions... Let me just say this, Mr. Chairman, I have a hard time understanding how you have put 2.2 trillion dollars at risk without making those names available, those institutions public, and we're gonna introduce legislation today, by the way, to demand that you do that. It is unacceptable to me that that goes on. Behind me the Federal Reserve is probably the least transparent agency in the federal government. One could even argue that the Central Intelligence Agency is more transparent than the Federal Reserve. The fact is, is that the American people want to know more of the "secrets of the temple", as the book was, before you were born: The Secrets of the Temple. The Fed, as you know, is just a monopoly by the bankers. This is simply putting the foxes in charge of the hen house. Personally, I'd be in favor of Congress just nationalizing the Fed. And... and getting the bankers out of there. They're... they're, you know, they're just stealing from the American people. Put it directly in the hands of Congress and... and let Congress decide rather than this cabal of bankers deciding their own rates of profit at the expense of the American people. Since the Federal Reserve's creation in 1913, patriots have labored tirelessly to alert the American people to the true nature of the Federal Reserve. Throughout its 90-plus year history, most Americans falsely believed that the Federal Reserve was a government agency. But today, scientific opinion polls show the vast majority of the public is aware of the fact that the Federal Reserve is a front company for an offshore private banking cartel that dominates, not just the United States, but almost every other nation on earth. It's never been written about in any book that I've found as to who gave these guys the authority or permission to be the international bankers for the world. Why would you even need international bankers? Why would any government agree to... to use them? Why would you need to use them? Why can't any country create its own money? That tells you there was already an existing superstructure, already in exist... in existence may be two, three hundred years ago to give these guys permission to somehow be the overlords of all money for all countries. Polls also reveal that 75% of Americans demand a public audit of the secretive organization. By the summer of 2009, Congressman Ron Paul's bill to audit the Fed had gained more than 280 sponsors in the House. But the private Fed's high-powered lobbyists were able to block a vote on the bill in the Senate. That only piqued the public's interest. I have another amendment to... I have been informed by the... that the majority plans to block consideration of this amendment, which is number 1367 regarding the transparency at the Federal Reserve. Madame President, I'd like to call up amendment 1367. Without objection, the clerk will report. The senator from South Carolina, Mr. DeMint, proposes amendment number 1367. Senator from Nebraska. I make a point of order against the DeMint amendment, that it's legislation on appropriations. Madame President? The point of order is well taken. The amendment... I... I regret the objection. The amendment falls. The people began asking themselves, "Why couldn't there be an audit of the Federal Reserve?" The Fed has never once been audited in the whole period of time, in the almost 90-some-odd years that the Fed has been around; the most powerful agency and... independent agency, it is never once been audited. This is an absolute crime against the freedoms of this country. Do you think it would cause problems for the Fed or for the economy if... if that legislation was to pass? My concern about the legislation is that if the GAO is auditing, not only the operational aspects of our programs and the details of the programs, but is making judgments about our policy decisions that would effectively be a takeover of monetary policy by the Congress. Is that your position, that this bill, if it were to be passed, would interfere directly with interest rates... setting interest rates? If we were to raise interest rates at a meeting, and someone in the Congress didn't like that, and said, "I want the GAO to audit that decision," wouldn't that be viewed as an interference? I would... I wouldn't think so. This is just reviewing it and you can do what you want. The Federal Reserve has never been subjected to an outside audit. And if you audit them, it's very likely that Greenspan, Bernanke and Volker might all go to jail. It was announced today, earlier today, that there will be a hearing on HR 1207, the bill to audit the Federal Reserve Bank. This will be the first independent audit in the Federal Reserve's 96 year history, and it's long overdue. Months ago, I asked the Vice-Chairman of the Federal Reserve, "Who received the one trillion dollars in funds that the Federal Reserve has handed out to domestic institutions?" He said, "I'm not gonna tell you." And then more recently the Chairman of the Federal Reserve, I asked him, "Who received the half-trillion?" -- we're talking about 500 billion dollars that the Federal Reserve handed over to foreign central banks -- "Who did they disseminate that money to?" And he said, "I don't know." Half-a-trillion dollars and he doesn't know. It's long overdue. We need to audit the Federal Reserve and I'm happy to say that that's... we're gonna have a hearing on that very soon. The only way, really, America can get out of the current mess is, you've got to shut the Fed down completely! Get rid of the Fed. You've gotta put the money printing mechanism back under the roof of the federal government instead of outsourcing it to the Fed. Why were the banks' front men Alan Greenspan and Ben Bernanke all over the news saying that they were above the law? What is the proper relationship? What should be the proper relationship between a chairman of the Fed and a president of the United States? There is no a... other agency of government which can overrule actions that we take. What the relationships are don't frankly matter. A grass roots movement demanding that the private Federal Reserve be nationalized, exploded in size across the country. The momentum had shifted. Now the arrogant central bankers were the ones running scared. They had planned to use their staged crisis to bring in an all-powerful central Bank of the World. Immediately every country goes into action at the same time. The... the International Monetary Fund is mentioned at the G-20 meeting. It's said that it must be brought to its full power and we need a Bretton Woods part II for world taxation. What is global government? For decades the media denied it existed. But now they are saying, "Oh yes, there's going to be a global government. A new Bank of the World and we're gonna pay our carbon taxes to it." What is it? It's nothing more than a private, hostile, corporate takeover, of every sovereign nation on earth. And then when you look at the philosophy of these global corporate chieftains, it is one of domination of the poor, domination of the population. It is a view that human life just isn't cheap; no, human life is a negative. And so no matter what they do, they have the rationale that it's in the greater interest to get rid of more human lives. They are so arrogant, and, and they are so sure of themselves. They are saying, "Yes, we created the European Union. We created the euro." And these... are from the people of the Bilderberg. "We are going to create a world bank. We're going to create a world government." They're saying it out loud and clearly. Suddenly, across the planet, their regional front banks had been identified by sovereign populations as the illegitimate shadow governments that they are. The controllers had moved too quickly and revealed their hand. Populations around the globe were seeing through the establishment's fa?ade, past the puppet governments, and to the global architects that were pulling their strings. Where are the American people? Why have they lost their dignity? What is stopping them from speaking out? Why have they become little mice that follow pied pipers? How can they look up to these pathetic politicians? Just say, "No." Just say, "No." Just say, "No." Go sit down. I have a question for this young man! He has a right to be represented! I'm his father! And I want to talk to you face-to-face! I'm not a lobbyist with all kinds of money to stuff in your pocket, so that you can cheat the... the citizens of this country. So I'll leave, and you can do whatever the hell you please to do. One day God's gonna stand before you and he's gonna judge you, and the rest of your damned cronies up on the Hill. And then you will your just deserves. As the public begins to awaken to the fact that Barack Obama has cold-bloodedly betrayed the pledges he made to the American people, the establishment media and Democratic leaders have invoked the tactic of divide and conquer. I think they are Astroturf; you be the judge of carrying swastikas and symbols like that to a town meeting on health care. An overwhelming portion of the intensely demonstrated animosity toward President Barack Obama is based on the fact that he is a black man. Desperate to ram their agenda through, they have played the race and class cards. You start to wonder whether in fact the word "socialist" is becoming a code word, whether or not "socialist" is becoming the new "N" word. When I heard people going after the First Lady and the number of staff people they have, it sounds racist to me. It is essential that the establishment play the population off against each other along the lines of Republican-Democrat, liberal-conservative, black and white. As long as the people are fighting with each other, they can never get together and remove the corporate dictatorship that has criminally seized power through the national security state. Just as George W. Bush betrayed his foolish followers, so must Obama. Because his only allegiance is to his offshore masters. President Obama today nominated Ben Bernanke for a second four-year term as Federal Reserve Chairman. The President called his actions on the global financial crisis, "bold, and out of the box". As an expert on the causes of the Great Depression, I'm sure Ben never imagined that he would be part of a team responsible for preventing another; but because of his background, his temperament, his courage and his creativity, that's exactly what he has helped to achieve. And that is why I am reappointing him to another term as Chairman of the Federal Reserve. So Obama has made it quite clear by his actions, never mind his words, his actions, as to who owns him, who... who he works for, and who he serves. And it's not the American people. It is so obvious to anyone paying attention that the President of the United States is not the real person in control. Whether it is Gerald Ford or Jimmy Carter or Ronald Reagan or... or Clinton or Bush or Bush, Obama is no different. And to think that he is an independent figure is just crazy. And as Franklin Delano Roosevelt said, "Presidents are selected, they are not elected." Obama pledged that he would end NAFTA and GATT and has since fought to expand both of them. Obama promised that he would have the most transparent administration ever, and he is already more secretive than Bush and Cheney ever were, even making it a secret who visits the White House. I can make a firm pledge. If your family earns less than 250,000 dollars a year... If you make less than a quarter million dollars a year... If you are a family making two... less than 250,000 dollars a year... You will not see your taxes increased a single dime. You will not see your taxes go up. You will not see your taxes increase one single dime. ...not your capital gains tax, not your payroll tax, not your income tax, no tax! ...not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes. ...not your payroll tax, not your capital gains tax, not your income tax, no tax! Your taxes will not go up! ...'cause the last thing you need is higher taxes when we're in a recession like this. So you won't get one under an Obama administration. Obama made the centerpiece of his campaign the pledge that taxes would not be raised on anyone making under 125,000 dollars a year. He has since gone back on that promise as well; and has proposed new taxes on payroll, energy, home mortgage deductions, and scores of other taxes. He made a pledge, he said, [I understand] "I'm not gonna raise taxes on anyone making under [I understand] 250. [Um, hmm] Is that pledge still active? Uh, we are going to let the process work its way through. So it's not? So it's not? So it's not? We're going to let the process work its way through. [Laughter.] Alright? The Senate is looking especially at this issue of... of capping the deductions for... for health care that employers and employees now get. That would... would... would be an increase, a tax increase for many families earning under 250,000 dollars. But the President said he was open to it, so that means that the tax pledge he made back in September is not longer operative? Obama said he was going to abolish the Patriot Act; he now vigorously defends it. We saw the same type of flip-flop when it came to warrantless wiretapping of the American people. Look what Obama's done with wiretapping, surveillance. He's brought it to heights even beyond what George Bush... the disgusting levels that he brought it to. So we have more surveillance. Now they are talking about --what is it called-- cybercom? The new Pentagon secret cyber society that's going to be watching over us? To get those terrorists. You gotta get those terrorists. So now they'll be invading our privacy even more. So, I mean, it really... it really almost makes you ask the question, "Would it have been better if we never invented the internet and had to use paper and pencil or whatever." Now Obama is setting up the cyber-security command, which the government admits completely ends the Fourth Amendment and allows President Obama to shut off the internet in the United States whenever he wishes. Indeed, in today's world acts of terror could come, not only from a few extremists in suicide vests, but from a few keystrokes on the computer: a weapon of mass disruption.

Alex Jones Show - February 23 2004

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Alex Jones: Before we go to our first guest, who I'm honoured to have, well our guest for this hour, I wanted to just remind you that Dr David Kelly was the head of the Level-4 Porton Down Bio-weapons lab in Wiltshire, England. And he was then the head British weapons inspector who'd been pro-war. He then came back and leaked information that `look I'm a hawk for this war but I'm not gonna lie. Saddam doesn't have weapons of mass destruction. And Tony Blair mis-used my assessment.'

Well suddenly he wound up dead. He told British and US colleagues that `I'm gonna be murdered and found dead in the woods if I don't shut up.'

This is now mainstream news. Three top doctors have gone public who have looked at the autopsy results and say he was clearly, he clearly did not commit suicide, and we have that posted at Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com. So a lot of people are starting to go public on this.

There were rumours of this last week that somebody who had been inside the British government had sources who said that they could confirm that Dr David Kelly had been killed, but the folks that got that story, I guess didn't take time out to go ahead and get in contact with the individual who was bringing forward this information himself. We've done that and he's coming up here in just a few minutes and we're so honoured to have him with us here on the show. He's Michael Shrimpton and Michael Shrimpton has a long bio. I did some research on him over the weekend. Michael Shrimpton, of course, is a national security lawyer, that is barrister, in government matters. He's written for the Journal for International Security Affairs. He has given advice and briefed the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, that's the US Senate. He's given speeches and consulted all over western Europe and the United States. And of course he's been an invited guest of the State Department.

So he's a mainstream guy, and I was very impressed talking to him. We're about to break for a quick three minute break, come back and join a bunch of stations that carry news during this segment. And I'll briefly re-cap who our guest is and we'll go to him. Michael Shrimpton is on the line with us, and again we're gonna break and come back, and he has some bombshell information for you from his sources inside MI5 and MI6. Again, he's a national security lawyer, that is barrister, who has advised the United States Senate Intelligence Committee. So you wanna have your tape recorders going, you wanna call your friends and family and tell them to tune into this show. And one of our great writers, Simon, is going to have an article written for us by this evening that will be posted on the websites as well.

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We're going to have an article this evening on the websites. It'll appear first on PrisonPlanet.com and I wanna thank Simon, and I wanna thank Rowena and Paul Watson and all the folks that have been working on this story and for getting us this guest. And again he's Michael Shrimpton and a national security lawyer or barrister, and he's written for major anti-terrorism journals. He has given his expert advice to the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence for the US Senate, and the bio goes on and on. He's also been involved in a lot of prominent, high profile cases in England. I came across that in my research on him. And he's a really nice fella, during the break I was talking to him and I said `Y'know, I hope you don't end up in the woods like Dr David Kelly', and he said `Well, no, by going public you protect yourself.'

And that's the truth. For other government whistleblowers, telling the truth is what protects you. If you covertly leak something, that's what's dangerous. So he protects himself by going on air. And obviously because of all of his sources he's a great source for all of us.

Michael, good to have you on the show with us.

Michael Shrimpton: [inaudible]

AJ: Just, for folks around the world who aren't very familiar with Dr David Kelly, hard to believe people aren't, could you re-cap who he was, what happened to him and then from your sources you even know down to the specifics of how they killed him and from your sources who was behind the killing. Can you just go through it for us?

MS: Yes, David Kelly was probably the most respected microbiologist in the United Kingdom. Certainly one who specialised in weapons of mass destruction. And he was the head of our main WMD laboratory at Porton Down in Wiltshire. He was very involved in the dismantling, verification of the dismantling of the Soviet WMD programmes after the end of the Cold War. He spent some time inside what was the bad old USSR. He was the senior British inspector on UNSCOM, the UN mission inside Iraq. He spent some considerable time in Baghdad. He was working very closely with our overseas intelligence service, MI6 or the Secret Intelligence Service, and he was a major, high-value, British intelligence asset. He was a good man. Decorated, awarded the CMG, Commander of St Michael and St George. Highly regarded and well liked too within the British intelligence community, and also respected in the United States.

AJ: And then suddenly Tony Blair's smearing him in the press and he ends up dead, and the witnesses according to the London Times and their publications, saw four men in black uniforms standing around him, they run off and `Oh, it's a suicide'. Go over the whole controversy of, I mean Dr David Kelly was a hawk for the war, but he wasn't going to put out false intelligence. Go through that for folks that missed out on it.

MS: Well, yes. David Kelly briefed in a British BBC journalist called Andrew Gilligan and also spoke to another journalist for the BBC Television's Newsnight programme, and he briefed in both journalists along the lines that the case for, the WMD case for war with Iraq had been exaggerated. There's a lot of dispute about exactly what was said and what wasn't said. The BBC Today programme which is the leading radio current affairs programme led with a story from Andrew Gilligan, which didn't name David Kelly as Andrew's source. Now we know that David Kelly was, and my own intelligence sources confirmed that before the BBC itself confirmed it on Sunday 20th July. David Kelly was outed in the media, big dispute as to who authorised his name to be given to the media, and he was asked to appear before a committee in the House of Commons. There was a lot of controversy about what the government had been told, how truthful a dossier that they had prepared on Iraqi weapons of mass destruction was, and shortly after he gave evidence to the House of Commons, he was found dead on Friday 18th July of last year. He was found dead. There is a dispute over exactly where he was found.

According to the official version of events he was found dead in a copse, or a wood, at a place called Harrowdown Hill, between the village where he lived and the River Thames. But the forensic tent, it's noticeable, Alex, that the forensic tents that were set up by the local police force, Thames Valley Police, were actually set up in the field. Why you would have someone killed in the woods and have the police tent over the scene of the crime set up in the field, no-one has yet been able to explain to my satisfaction.

Now the government were blamed for causing the death, but the way the government were criticised was this: that they had caused his name to be leaked to the media. That had put him under intolerable pressure and he had allegedly committed suicide. The initial media reports all went with suicide and the mainstream media in the UK is still reporting it as a suicide. The government responded very quickly and brought in a Law Lord, Lord Hutton, who'd previously been Lord Chief Justice of Northern Ireland. And the Hutton Inquiry has very recently reported. Lord Hutton didn't challenge the suicide verdict, there was no cross-examination of witnesses before the Hutton Inquiry as to the cause of death. It was assumed that it was suicide and the BBC were essentially blamed for poor reporting, the government were let off the hook.

The Hutton Report, I'm sorry to say, is widely seen as a whitewash and it's been rubbished. A very senior British Intelligence officer recently retired, a Lieutenant Colonel, Crispin Black, who was on the Defence Intelligence Staff until 2002, has basically described the report as a `laughing stock' and I respectfully agree.

AJ: Now I've seen major polls where over two thirds of the British people believe it's a complete fraud. I mean obviously Tony Blair hires one of his cronies to come in and say `Oh you didn't do anything wrong' and then even that's a whitewash of a larger whitewash because obviously according to the medical reports, the coroner's report, the doctors that have looked at it, the suicide verdict � that's a fraud itself and let's go into your sources and what really happened to Dr David Kelly.

MS: Absolutely, although I wouldn't be allowed to say that Tony Blair had hired a judge, you understand that in England we don't hire judges [chuckles]. The judge is on the State payroll anyway and I wouldn't want to be thought of as suggesting that anybody had put a little extra funds Lord Hutton's way. I'm quite sure Lord Hutton took no extra payment.

AJ: Well what I'm saying is, is that obviously Hutton's been involved with what's been called whitewashes in the past.

MS: The Report, I'm sorry to say, with respect to Lord Hutton, the Report is a complete whitewash.

AJ: Well I mean they take, I mean you have a government institution whitewashing for another government institution.

MS: Well exactly. This is the problem with appointing senior judges to hold inquiries. There's been a lot of adverse comment in England. The senior judge is, by definition, part of the establishment. It's very difficult to judge, of course, if he whitewashes the government, everybody says `Well it is a whitewash'. If he blames the government, well it's asking too much of a senior judge to go around blaming the government. It's not what senior judges do.

AJ: I mean what do you expect? I mean here we have it where Janet Reno hires somebody to investigate Waco, I mean she literally appoints the investigator. We have Bush controlling the 9/11 panel, I mean it's ridiculous. But getting into the specifics of Dr David Kelly's clear murder, let's go over that.

MS: Well, absolutely. Now on Saturday 19th July, David was murdered on the 17th, on Saturday the 19th, within 48 hours of the murder, I was contacted by a British intelligence officer who told me he'd been murdered. That didn't take me by surprise, I was suspicious of the suicide theory from the word go. Now that source told me he'd done some digging and discovered that, he didn't name names but he discovered that it had been known about in Whitehall prior to the 17th July that David Kelly was going to be taken down. Now normally with a suicide, Alex, you appreciate that we don't like people knowing in advance. If people know in advance of the death, that normally points away from suicide.

AJ: Yes

MS: I

AJ: [Chuckles]

MS: [Chuckles] Exactly. Now a lot of work has been done since the murder, and there's been particularly a great deal of medical research. Now it's absolutely clear that David was murdered. The suicide theory just doesn't hold water at all. The official version of events is that he took some Co-Proxamol tablets. Now Co-Proxamol is available in England only by prescription. There is a problem with that because there is no evidence that David Kelly was ever prescribed Co-Proxamol. Now Co-Proxamol I think is available in the United States, it's a combination of Dextropropoxythene and paracetamol in a ratio of 1 to 10. It's not a very powerful painkiller and the level of Co-Proxamol in the blood stream according to the official toxicology report was about one third, i.e. not enough to kill him. Now 29 tablets were allegedly missing, or were missing, from a packet of Co-Proxamol found by the body. The problem is that there is only one fifth of a tablet in the stomach and there's no evidence of substantial vomiting. There was a little bit of vomit found on the body but not much. And there's no analysis done of the material.

The stomach contents do not support the suggestion that he ingested 29 Co-Proxamol tablets. Interestingly, the initial media reports, and when we look at staged suicides or political assassinations, I find it very useful to concentrate on the early media reports because if there is a cover-up, usually the cover-up kicks in after 12, 24, 36 hours. The first media reports are very often the most accurate, particularly if they're coming from local news organisations. The early media reports made no mention of a bottle of water. The theory is, Alex, that he took these Co-Proxamol tablets having set out on a walk, in the course of which he was going to commit suicide, and took with him a bottle of water to swallow the tablets. Problem � no mention in early media reports of any bottle of water. That detail was only added in after a group of concerned people in England, professionals called the `Kelly Group' had made the point and it was already out into the open. Now, the suicide version of events can't be right. He was found with one wrist slashed and the ulnar artery, which is the artery�

AJ: Tell you what, we've got a break. We're gonna come back and go over the circumstantial evidence and then your source's inside intelligence that say `Hey, we got the word he was about to be killed and then who killed him. We'll talk about that too.

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AJ: Alright, this is a quick segment. We've got a longer segment coming up. Plenty of time to go over this evidence with our guest, and our guest would like to take calls so later in the interview, if you'd like to talk to our guest the toll-free number to join us is 1-800 259 9231.

We're talking to Michael Shrimpton and he's a national security barrister in England. He has given testimony and advice to the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence for the US Senate, and he's obviously very knowledgeable about intelligence and the activities of intelligence agencies. He has a lot of sources in MI5 and MI6. You just heard him talk about one source inside British intelligence that said they got word that Kelly was about to be killed by the government a week or so before he actually died. I want to go back into that in more detail coming up here in a few minutes. But Mr Shrimpton was then going over the material evidence of the murder and you've gotten to the point of the slitting of the wrist.

MS: Yeah, he clearly didn't slit his own wrist. The idea that he exsanguinated, that he died from haemorrhaging, he bled out from a cut to one wrist only, to the ulnar artery, is just a nonsense Alex. Firstly the artery that was cut was the ulnar artery which is more difficult to reach, it's on the little finger side of the hand. It's deeper than the radial artery. Why go for an artery deep in the wrist when you can slit an artery much closer to the surface of the skin. That's the first problem.

The second problem, he, according to the autopsy report, he severed or transected the artery. But once you transect an artery, we have something called vaso-constriction. The artery retracts and that promotes clotting. It's very difficult to bleed out if you sever one artery only.

AJ: And I would second that with David Halpin, a doctor, a prominent orthopaedic surgeon, as well as Stephen Frost, specialist in diagnostics. I mean there's a whole bunch of top-level doctors saying `This is a complete fraud.'

MS: Exactly. One doctor went around promoting the official version of events and attacked these doctors in the Guardian newspaper in England and talked about slashing `wrists'. Well David Kelly on the official version of events didn't slash his wrists, plural, he slashed one wrist only. It's highly unusual. Firstly, wrist slashing is not an effective method of committing sucide. One of the reasons people do it in a bath of hot water�

AJ: That keeps the veins open

MS: � Is that you need to keep the temperature high. Yup. If you're out in the open, if you're not keeping the temperature high, the wrists, the arteries will not stay dilated. It is very difficult indeed to bleed out in the open even if you slit both wrists. Slitting one wrist only � much less blood loss and we have conflicting accounts for the amount of blood found by the body. The most reliable eye-witnesses, in my judgement, are probably the paramedics who found him. They talked about comparatively little blood loss. There is no solid evidence that any large, that a lot of blood had left the body. There were no adequate measurements of the amount of blood left in the major vessels, in the heart and so on.

AJ: Now talking to you earlier today, it's pretty clear that they drug him up, then as he's dying slit his wrist to create this scene. From your sources inside the intelligence community, what really happened to Dr David Kelly?

MS: In my judgement, based on conversations with sources and with medical experts and a great deal of work has been done over this since the murder, he was probably murdered by a combination of an injection, not through tablets, but an intravenous injection of Dextropropoxythene and paracetamol, the constituents of Co-Proxamol, and a muscle relaxant called Succinylcholine. Now Succinylcholine is a favourite method of assassinating people, it's used by intelligence agencies, particularly the French DGSE. Succinylcholine, although it's used therapeutically for treating [inaudible] incubation and so on, can be lethal and in combination with the constituents of Co-Proxamol, 30 milligrammes would probably have been a lethal dose. The problem for someone investigating an assassination by Succinylcholine is that it metabolises even after death and you only pick up the metabolites. In other words it's one of those drugs that leaves no trace unless you have a very expert pathologist who really knows what he or she is doing.

AJ: Yeah all you can find is what it metabolises into. You cannot find the original chemical.

MS: Exactly. So you have to look for the enzymes it metabolises into. You won't find any trace of the original drug. [inaudible]

AJ: Well it's like with AIDS, you look for the antibodies �cos you can't find the virus.

MS: Well, very effectively, yeah. It's fairly clear that the slash to the wrist was done to disguise the puncture wound. There's no puncture wound, but of course the slash to the wrist would've disguised it. Now the palm or face of the wrist, effectively the inside face of the wrist, is a very popular method, you know anaesthesiologists would use it to inject. It's quite realistic to suppose that David Kelly was injected in the wrist with the muscle relaxant and the Dextropropoxythene and the

AJ: Tell you what, we've got a break again. We'll come back and get into your source and take some calls.

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AJ: Folks, this is very very important, because Tony Blair is a minion of the globalists. He's the tool who's trying to destroy British national sovereignty, to bring the British people under the dominance of the un-elected unaccountable European Union whether they like it or not. He's been promised the EU head-ship under a new expanded, empowered EU, if he can get Britain into it. He lied about the weapons of mass destruction. It's clear that if Tony Blair was to have been exposed, that would certainly hurt those in Europe that want to get rid of British sovereignty.

And talking to Michael Shrimpton, our guest, our intelligence expert who has his sources over there in England. Talking to you earlier before the show, you talked about your sources, the evidence you have that it looks like that it was elements of British intelligence or of the government using French intelligence to go and do their dirty work which, by the way, is a standard operation if intelligence agencies are getting rid of some of their own people, they will generally use a sister agency in a sister country. I know this is very delicate, Michael, but can you go over what you talked to me off-air about?

MS: Yes Alex. Firstly I should make it clear that I have absolutely no negation that anybody in either of the British intelligence agencies, MI5, the Security Service, or MI6, The Secret Intelligence Service, being involved. On the contrary, my sources are telling me that both services are extremely unhappy. Now the indications are, now you understand I'm being cautious on air, but there indications pointing towards an involvement by the French external intelligence agency the DGSE or Direction Générale de la Sécurité Extérieure.

AJ: But obviously they've got a liaison within the government, the British government. They've gotta have someone authorising this, or are you saying it's just a rogue element wanting to get rid of somebody who could mess up the EU?

MS: No, again I've got to be obviously careful on air, but the indications are that the tasking for the assassination came from within the UK, but I can't name any individual official or minister. The tasking was generated in the UK, went to Paris, was then OK'd in Paris, and on the information available to me, the operational agency for the assassination was DGSE. Now there are also indications, and I'm again, obviously Alex you appreciate I'm expressing myself with caution here, there are indications that DGSE, in order to false-flag the assassination, should their team be discovered, used Iraqi intelligence assets from the Iraqi Mukhabarat agency that were available in Damascus after the fall of Baghdad. And I have one source suggesting that an Iraqi team, that's to say an ex-Mukhabarat team, recruited in Damascus with the assistance of the Syrian intelligence operation, also the Mukhabarat, were flown into Corsica in the seven days prior to the assassination of David Kelly. Now the standard French practice when they carry out assassinations is to take their own team out. I am very doubtful that any of the people involved directly in the assassination of David Kelly are still alive. It would be highly unusual for the French to permit anyone involved in the assassination for them to survive.

AJ: Well we've seen this in the past. You've had the big controversy the BBC's reported on about British intelligence using Al-Qaeda individuals to try to kill Muammar Gaddaffi. I mean this is a classic deal. Of course the Iraqis were allies during the eighties and so a lot of these guys were trained in the US, trained in England, trained in France, and then bringing these assets back in.

MS: Yeah, that was a mess [laughs]. That was, er, we could spend another hour on that, Alex. Whoever authorised that operation did not know what they were doing. That was just a total shambles.

AJ: Well, I mean wouldn't these Iraqis know that they were doing this hit, that they were going to be in deep trouble afterwards, or were they told `You don't have a choice'?

MS: Not necessarily. They may not have worked for French intelligence before. If you're offered a job by French intelligence I would turn it down.

AJ: [Laughs]

MS: Anybody approached by French intelligence to do a hit, I would strongly advise them to turn it down or even increase their life insurance. They were probably, I mean assuming it was Iraqis and I can't be positive; there are indications pointing towards an Iraqi involvement, I can't be positive about DGSE. I have a range of sources as you've said, and those sources point to Paris and they point towards DGSE. [Inaudible]

AJ: Now DGSE is the equivalent of an MI6, it's outward.

MS: Exactly.

AJ: DGSU is internal?

MS: It's the DST, Direction de la Surveillance du Territoire, which is the internal agency. And the DST are internal, the DGSE are external. Let's just put it this way, Alex, the operation has all the hallmarks of DGSE. British intelligence, or my sources, are furious, they're not happy at all because David, after all, was a British intelligence asset.

AJ: Well by the way, my webmaster, Paul Watson, has talked to a major British news reporter who has talked directly to British intelligence, and they said months ago � I'm talking six months ago � the same thing that you just said here.

MS: Well that is interesting because that would be almost certainly a different source to mine. It might be we're talking to the same people. One of the problems in the intelligence world is `loop-back', something you think is independent confirmation, may [chuckles] may turn out to be..

AJ: No, I understand. But I mean clearly from the circumstantial, from the material evidence you've got murder, you've got a cover-up, you've got a spin, you've got a motive �

MS: Exactly.

AJ: - You've got him telling the US doctor, his colleague, `If I don't shut up I'm gonna be found dead in the woods. They're gonna kill me.' I mean this is all public now, we have him saying `They're gonna kill me and put me in the woods.' You said that you've talked to intelligence people who've said `Yeah, they knew Kelly was about to get it, before he even died. Can you elaborate on that?

MS: Yeah, the source that spoke to me on the 19th July, after the assassination, you see this source was a friend of David Kelly's, so David was a friend of a friend. This source obviously is not very happy. It didn't take him five minutes to work out that this was murder, not suicide. He then made enquiries and he established from other sources that the murder was known about in advance, i.e. the murder of David Kelly was known about within a section of Whitehall, prior to the 17th July, and he was very unhappy. That source came through to me and effectively I'm acting as an interface between the media and the intelligence community. It is not possible for the intelligence community to do what I'm doing now and go on to a radio show and broadcast it around the world.

AJ: Well you have an impeccable record and you've been involved in a lot of high profile cases. You've testified before the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence for our Senate here and you write for major intelligence journals. You've certainly impressed me, Mr Shrimpton, because I study this stuff continually and you're just massively knowledgeable, more knowledgeable in many areas than I am.

MS: If I could just say, I should correct, I didn't testify before the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, the briefing I gave was a closed briefing entirely.

AJ: That's what I meant.

MS: The Senators on the Committee, I had the privilege of meeting Senator Graham when he was chairman, just briefly, Senator Graham might not even recall the meeting. We met briefly when I happened to be in Congress on another matter. A very nice man.

AJ: Well just to be clear, sir, I know when you guys testify it's always public-

MS: (Yeah / Cough ?)

AJ: - here, most of what they do, obviously you know, is behind doors, that's what I meant.

MS: Exactly, yeah. This is a, with the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, I was invited in to their operation - they're very nice people � and this was a confidential briefing on a case in which I'd been involved, which obviously I can't discuss on the air as a courtesy to the guys and girls I briefed in. Very nice people.

AJ: Absolutely. Now I was just going over some of your bio for folks. Now, as we sit here looking at this, for those who don't understand why an element inside England would want to use someone outside England, who would then use another membrane between them and the hit-men, that's just standard operating procedure. But why would the French be happy to go along with getting rid of Kelly?

MS: Well, it would depend on the French assessment of whether or not the government would be at risk. The French would definitely want Tony Blair, Tony Blair's government to remain in office. They would be very concerned indeed at any suggestion that might risk the government. There's a very strong geo-political motive for the French retaining their ally. Don't forget that the Blair government is a close ally of President Chirac. There have been a series of private meetings between Prime Minister Blair and President Chirac since the [inaudible]

AJ: And they're pushing the Euro, so they believe that if Blair is in danger, the Euro's in danger.

MS: Well, exactly. Tony Blair is the most high profile politician in the UK committed to destroying the national currency. And the French very much want Blair to remain in office for geo-political reasons. We've just had a very unusual summit between Blair, Chirac and the German Chancellor Schroeder. I have to be very cautious, I'm not naming Tony Blair as the person who generated the tasking for the assassination. Indeed, I am quite comfortable that it wasn't Tony Blair who put the tasking into Paris. Now, question marks: What did he know and when did he know it? There I can't be so confident.

AJ: Well obviously Tony Blair's a puppet. I mean he's not running the entire mechanism of the government, so-

MS: He's a puppet. He's a puppet Prime Minister anyway. He's committed to the European Union. I mean he takes his orders, like anyone says we should be in the European Union, you take your orders from Brussels, because that's what government from Brussels involves.

AJ: Exactly, so �

MS: That's the constitutional position. You know European Community law is supreme, according to the European Union, and it takes precedence over British law.

AJ: Yeah your Magna Carta's gone if that sucker passes.

MS: [Chuckles] It does, these days, Alex. But that's a broader issue. You're right incidentally on the false flagging. I'm often called upon formally or informally � usually informally � to deconstruct assassinations, to look at a particular assassination and try and work out what's happened. Basically, in counter-intelligence work we would normally recognise eight methods of trying to disguise an assassination.

First method is you would try and blame it on your opponents. That was done in Sweden recently with the assassination of Anna Lindh, the very nice Swedish Foreign Minister. An attempt was made to blame that on opponents of Sweden joining the Euro.

You can blame it on a terrorist organisation. That was done particularly with the IRA and the attempted assassination of Margaret Thatcher; the assassination of the war hero, Airey Neave, a Conservative MP, was blamed on the Irish National Liberation Army. The terrorist organisation might carry out the assassination, but in almost every case the terrorist organisation is working for a government.

Third method of disguising assassinations, Alex, in my experience is to false-flag them, where it's blamed on another agency. Now there are elements of false-flagging in the Kelly assassination, because had the team which carried out the assassination been discovered, clearly it could have been false-flagged via Baghdad, and you know, we'd have heard about three Iraqis in Oxfordshire, if assuming it was Iraqis for the sake of argument, the blame would then go to Baghdad and Paris would be let off the hook. The Iranians tried that quite successfully with the attempted assassination of the Pope, back in the early 1980's.

Then you have the lone-gunman theory. Now you guys are very familiar with that, because you'll recall that somebody tried to blame Lee Harvey Oswald for the assassination of President John Fitzgerald Kennedy-

AJ: Ha ha. Yeah.

MS: - an amusing suggestion to those of us know a little bit more about that assassination than is in the public domain. We've had a lone-gunman, a classic example of a lone-gunman assassination theory in Europe with the assassination of the Dutch politician Pim Fortuyn, which was blamed on a lone-gunman. An explanation which doesn't carry much weight with me since in the photographs of the assassin that I saw, there was what appeared to me to be a very thin wire leading up to an ear-piece. Normally, Alex, lone-gunmen don't run around with radios and ear-pieces, particularly high-tech ones with-

AJ: Well it was the same thing with Yitzhak Rabin.

MS: Yeah.

AJ: I'm mean Netanyahu's giving speeches about `Somebody ought to get rid of this guy', and then Rabin's security steps back and they blow him away, I mean �

MS: Well certainly respected commentators, Gerald [Gordon] Thomas is one who would say that the Rabin assassination definitely not down to a lone-gunman.

Then you've got illness. Now this is fairly rare. It's difficult to fake an illness. It was done in the case of a British politician, Hugh Gaitskill, who was opposed to Britain joining the European Economic Community, and he came down with a tropical disease in Moscow in the middle of winter. Generally speaking you-

AJ: [Laughs]

MS: [Laughs] It was spotted at the time as an assassination, but MI5, although they'd brought in Porton Down, where David Kelly worked incidentally, Porton Down were brought in but Porton Down couldn't work out how the disease which got Hugh Gaitskill, which is Lupus Disseminata, a very nasty disease indeed - attacks the organs, very similar to Ebola � how this tropical disease had found its way to Moscow, and they couldn't work out how, what the agent was for getting the Lupus into Hugh Gaitskill. We now know it was probably aerosol, but at the time that technology wasn't known about in England.

Then you've got accident and we've, there are a couple of interesting political assassinations in Zimbabwe, of road accidents which I would put a question mark against. It's less common to try and stage accidents, but it's not unknown. A friend of mine was nearly taken out in Argentina a few years ago in what looked to me to be a slightly dubious accident.

AJ: Well what about Princess Diana? She says `Prince Charles is gonna kill me in a staged automobile accident' and then she dies.

MS: Well the Diana assassination is certainly, probably the classic recent example of trying to make it look like an accident. Yes.

AJ: We've been having all these microbiologists in government weapons programmes, will be in a, walking down the street of the university, and a van jumps the rail, chases them, runs them over then backs back over them, drives back over them, and the police just go `An accident, a hit and run.'

MS: [Laughs] Well if you want the truth of the Diana assassination, the best people to talk to are the Israelis, because they had Danny Yatom, who's a lovely guy by the way, who was then head of Mossad in '97, who are really nice people, Danny had teams, I think, on the entrance to the Alma Tunnel and on the exit as well. Interesting man. Lovely chap.

AJ: Tunnels where?

MS: This is the Alma Tunnel where Diana where Diana was taken out.

AJ: Oh, yes. Yes.

MS: The seventh method of disguising assassinations in my experience is to try and use a naturally occurring poison. A favourite of intelligence agencies is Saxitoxin, which occurs in shellfish so it's possible, providing you can get some shellfish into the stomach of the victim, Saxitoxin assassination providing you've successfully disguised the puncture wound, or you can find a method of getting the poison into the body. You know, you can get away with that if you're lucky.

And then the final method is the one tried in the case of David Kelly, that you try and make the murder look like suicide. But it's very difficult. In this case the attempt to slash the wrist was pointless, because he was already dead. And there's not enough blood. None of the witnesses, in my judgement, reports enough blood consistent with him bleeding out and the medical experts we've talked to, and I've been insisting on this, the medical experts generally reckon that for this, you'd be looking for five pints, that's English pints of blood. There's nothing I've seen that persuades me that more than a pint was lost and that's about consistent with what you'd expect from transecting one ulnar artery. Completely transecting it, it then retracts, clots, and you don't get, you get surprisingly little bleeding from cutting your ulnar artery. [inaudible]

AJ: Well, sir, can we keep you a little bit into the next hour, because I want to come back and go to Pat and Jim and Lenny and others that have been patiently holding?

MS: I'd be delighted to talk to you. I didn't realise, I'm sorry I've been talking on and I've been keeping people on the phone. I apologise to them and I look forward to talking to them.

AJ: Oh no, this is important information because this shows the type of things that are going on in our world and how the media tries to spin this, but why do you think the media have been so willing to go along with the official government story that it's a suicide?

MS: Well, the political consequences, the mainstream media in the UK are largely committed to UK membership of the European Union, and my guess is that most of the newspapers in the UK would be worried about the political consequences of going public with any story suggesting David Kelly was assassinated. And then you've got technical competence, there aren't that many good investigative journalists in the UK. It's not that difficult to get the mainstream media to buy an official version of events.

AJ: Yeah, it's easy. Just [inaudible] the Fed says this, just write it and go drink a beer.

[Commercial Break]

AJ: Okay folks. We're back live here. And we're about to go to your calls, everybody's been holding patiently for our guest. Going back to our guest, Michael Shrimpton, national security lawyer, barrister in England. Michael?

MS: Yeah.

AJ: Continuing with what we were discussing and just briefly recapping, you have a source who, in intelligence, talked to his other sources and it was widely known in intelligence that there was an order to get rid of Kelly, even before he died.

MS: My source learned after the assassination that others in Whitehall were aware of the assassination in advance, yes. And that source had spoken to, obviously he was a friend of David Kelly's, knew him well, had worked with him, and clearly once his friend was found dead in a wood, made investigations and when he made investigations he discovered that this assassination was known about in advance. Yes.

AJ: And he told, and this is in the Associated Press, BBC, you name it, he told an American doctor who was on the team with him in Iraq, he said `If I don't shut up about this, I'm gonna end up dead in the woods.'

MS: Yeah. There was also an interesting conversation with David Broucher who was formerly British Ambassador in Prague in the Czech Republic, along similar lines. That, David Broucher I think was a witness, in fact, to the Hutton Inquiry. David Kelly worked, I never had the privilege of meeting him, I would have loved to have met him, my friend certainly worked with him and knew him. David worked very closely with the United States intelligence and worked very closely with Sergeant Mai Pederson in particular, but I get the impression he was very highly thought of in the US intelligence community as well.

AJ: Was this done by the pro-EU crowd? The globalists, I would call them? To put out a chilling effect into everybody in intelligence to keep your mouths shut?

MS: Broadly speaking, yes. Now motive is another question altogether. It's tolerably clear, one can't be certain, tolerably clear that he was taken out in order to prevent him talking. Now what is unclear is whether he was taken out because there was concern he was about to acquire intelligence that might be highly damaging, or taken out because he had acquired it and was about to talk to the media. We know there was concern about the extent of his media contacts, I mean �

AJ: He was also a microbiologist -

MS: Correct.

AJ: - and there's been a whole bunch of those dying around the world. Let's take a call. Pat in Indiana, thanks for holding. You're on the air with our guest, go ahead.

Pat: Yes, this is a little off the subject, but it has to do with �

AJ: Ma'am, you don't have your radio on, do you? Or a speakerphone or something? Cos I'm not gonna be able to talk to you if you don't turn it off.

Pat: He did.

AJ: Okay go ahead.

Pat: Okay, it's about a couple of subjects I want to air

AJ: I'm gonna have to go ahead and put her on hold. I'm sorry Ma'am, but something's wrong with your phone or you got your radio on. Let's try to bring her back up one more time and then I'll have to let her go. Pat, go ahead.

Pat: This is on a couple of � I don't know what's wrong because we turned our radio off.

AJ: Okay, it's alright. Go ahead.

Pat: Okay. This is on a couple of subjects, one from Earlham College and one from the Town Hall meeting I had with Mike [inaudible] on Friday.

AJ: Ma'am, is this concerning our guest.

Pat: No.

AJ: Because you told us that you wanted to talk to our guest. I'm gonna have to put you on hold.

MS: Nice to talk to you anyway, Pat.

AJ: Yeah, nice to talk to you. You know we're about to break and start the next hour and then we'll sort out what's going on with the calls and we'll get to �em. Lets um, I know there's a whole bunch of calls here for you, we'll try to sort �em out and find out what's going on as we talk to our guest, Michael Shrimpton, a national intelligence barrister in England. I bet you see all kinds of just amazing stuff in your job.

MS: I do, yes [laughs]. Not all that I can talk about on the air. And I meet some interesting people. And I had a very interesting visit to Israel in the middle of last year, looking at the new security fence being built.

AJ: Alright, well, I hear the music, so that means we've got to go ahead and break. And when we get back and start the third hour we'll go straight to your calls, folks. You wanna talk to our guest, it's 1-800 259 9231. 1-800 259 9231. Infowars.com.

[Commercial Break]

AJ: Alright, my friends. Now into the third hour. We're talking to Michael Shrimpton, national security barrister in England with his intelligence sources concerning the murder of Dr David Kelly. And British people are very suspicious as are many other folks around the world. And more and more is coming out. Let's go ahead and go to Jim in Illinois. Jim, thanks for holding, you're on the air with our guest. Go ahead.

Jim: I have two quick questions. Mr Shrimpton, what is David Kelly's wife saying about his murder?

MS: Janice Kelly � hi Jim � Janice Kelly accepts that it was suicide, at least that's her official position.

Jim: Next question. Why didn't the British, or the American or the Israeli intelligence assassinate Saddam Hussein before the war?

MS: Well that's a big question, probably better directed to intelligence officials. Assassination is very - I'm opposed to assassinations in principle, one of the reasons why I'm outraged by David Kelly's assassination � assassination is a double-edged sword and I think had we gone in and taken out Saddam Hussein, that would have rebounded on both Britain and America very quickly. So I think the call not to assassinate him was probably well made. It's also more difficult to assassinate politicians like Saddam Hussein than first appears. You remember the CIA's farcical efforts to try to get rid of Fidel Castro.

Jim: Right.

MS: They had a go for several years and they didn't get anywhere close to assassinating him with exploding cigars and what-have-you. I would say the call not to take Saddam Hussein out was right. The danger with assassinating somebody like Saddam Hussein, you build up inside Iraq popular support for his regime �

AJ: Yeah, you turn him into a martyr and also it'll cause a revolution even before you get there and you won't control, kind of, the way the balls break. Thanks for the call. That's a really good question. Anything else Jim?

Jim: No thankyou.

MS: Great to talk to you, Jim.

AJ: I've got a question.

MS: Great state, Illinois. Been there.

AJ: [Chuckles] I've got a question for you, Michael. Where is all this going as more and more doctors and people come forward, and as you come forward and say it's clear that he was murdered. I mean where does all this go for Tony Blair?

MS: Well there are indications that he may be preparing to resign. He's denied officially over the weekend that he's been planning to resign, which is an indication that he is. Never believe anything until it's officially denied. A number of key advisors have bailed out. Alastair Campbell, another key advisor, Philip Gould, has just been offered a peerage, which is a form of retirement we have in England that you don't have in the United States �

AJ: Michael Meacher, months ago.

MS: Michael Meacher, yes. There are now calls, Michael Meacher's just issued a call, he's former government � nice chap � former government minister. Michael has issued a call over the last weekend, calling on him to go. There are indications that he is on his way out, but you know, it's up to him. Or up to his party.

AJ: Well that would certainly be good. I mean have you ever had a Prime Minister this bad?

MS: Well, that's a political question. The answer is `probably', but I can't remember when. It's a close toss-up between Tony Blair, John Major and Lord North who lost the American colonies, but from your point of view Lord North was probably quite good to have in Downing Street.

AJ: [Laughs] That's funny.

MS: Neville Chamberlain. I think that, without being disrespectful to my Prime Minister on the air, I think it's a close call between Tony Blair and Neville Chamberlain.

AJ: [Laughs]

MS: You have to, you know, you have to, you could have ten different politicians and economists and military strategists sit around a table and come up with ten different answers as to whether Neville Chamberlain surrendered more of Europe than Tony Blair, and whether Tony Blair surrendered more to France and Germany than Neville Chamberlain did. It's a close run thing.

AJ: Well I think it's clearly Tony Blair if he gets what he wants.

MS: Yes, I had the, I have to say having met Tony Blair, he's not, he's quite a pleasant, personable individual. He's not a monster when you meet him.

AJ: Well they said that about Adolf Hitler too. Y'know we've got a break. We'll come right back and we'll go to Lenny Bloom who's been on this story, and we'll also talk to David in Texas and a few other callers for our guest, and then we'll get to Bob and Ron and others, and a bunch of other key news items. Stay with us.

[Commercial Break]

AJ: Just an absolutely amazing and riveting interview over the last hour and eight minutes with our guest - national security barrister, lawyer, who has consulted with the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence here in the US, and given speeches, and consulted around the world, and writes for major terrorism journals - going over well, just a lot of interesting facts for us. Like usually if you've got some type of terrorist assassination, terrorists killing people, there's usually a government behind them using them as a go-between. Oh we've discovered that here in our research too. And going over the evidence of how Dr David Kelly was killed, and the elements inside governments that did it and why. Lets take a few calls. We'll go to David and Ian and a few others here in a few minutes, but right now lets go to Lenny Bloom who's been a guest on this show before and has a website CloakandDagger.com [CloakandDagger.ca]. I know last week they got some rumblings of this story and put it out. Lenny, what's on your mind?

Lenny: Well welcome, thanks for having me back, Alex, you're doing a tremendous yeoman's service job. You know the pilots who fly these assassination teams around the world don't have a public responsibility to tell the media, tell the truth, tell people. But the media has a core responsibility. Y'know these things, there's so many people involved that I've known and been a part of as a spy-pilot over the years. This thing with Dr Kelly is something that's interesting, ever since the Duke of Edinburgh said he wanted to become a deadly virus and come back and be reincarnated we have kept a biochemical doctors death-list, for good reason. The Duke doesn't want to be suspected or blamed for his actions. It's really interesting and clear what's going on here, it's right in front of everybody's nose.

AJ: Okay Lenny, do you have any questions or comments for our guest?

Lenny: Yeah, I just want to say thanks for coming out, I think that's great that you're starting to dig into the whole thing. I think Kelly was number fifty on the death-list, and I think that's wonderful.

AJ: Lenny, let me ask our guest that. Are you familiar, sir, that there's been all over the western world, Australia, Russia, western Europe, England, the US, top bio-weapons scientists being murdered and that Kelly just so happened to be one more on that list?

MS: Well I'm aware of an unusually high percentage of microbiologists going south and it's � put it this way, it's attracted my interest. I think David Kelly wasn't taken out as part of a systematic campaign to take out WMD scientists.

Lenny: I didn't say that. He's part of a death-list though and there may be different reason for it.

MS: Hi Lenny, good to hear from you. You mentioned you were a spy pilot. What planes were you flying?

Lenny: Well I'm rather grounded right now!

MS: What did you used to fly?

Lenny: I flew everything from F18's to F14's to Cessna 172's to Bell 206's and my student became Air Force One helicopter for ten years. He's a three star general.

MS: I wish I could introduce you to a client of mine who once flew an aeroplane called the Lockheed U-2A over the Soviet Union with a guy called Gary Powers.

AJ: Wow.

MS: Yeah.

AJ: Well thanks for the call, Lenny. I appreciate that. And thanks for all your work.

MS: Great to talk to you, Lenny.

AJ: Yeah, let's talk to David in Texas. David, you're on the air. Go ahead.

David: Hello sir?

AJ: Yes, go ahead.

MS: Hi David.

David: Hi, thank you for taking my call. I have a quick question on the media. I know that you're involved in intelligence, but like in our country we don't see a lot of programming on Tel-Aviv and Palestinian television, and I know they present a very, you know er, I don't know er, ethical code of fatwa and things of that such, and we don't [inaudible] a lot of that, and I'm curious [inaudible]

AJ: Okay, I'm trying to understand exactly what you're saying. Boil it down for us.

David: Well, the promotion of dying for Allah is a shown thing on TV in Tel-Aviv and the media doesn't really focus on that here in the United States. I'm wondering what your view is on that and do you see that in Europe?

MS: Well �

David: I'll go ahead and listen. Thank you.

MS: Okay David. Well always a pleasure to talk to somebody from � whereabouts in Texas are you from?

AJ: I believe he's gone.

MS: Oh he's gone. Well let me answer his question as a courtesy to him. I'm not very impressed of media coverage of the middle-east generally. I do subscribe to a very interesting service called MEMRI, the Middle East Media Research Institute, and some of the stuff they come up with on what is broadcast on mainstream media in Egypt and Saudi Arabia concerning Israel is just shocking. It's like the 1930's all over again. Very, very disturbing stuff. So I'm not very impressed with mainstream coverage of the middle-east, and that was partly why I went to the middle-east in June, a little fact-finding tour. [Inaudible]

AJ: You were there with the IDF on the ground, what did you learn?

MS: Well I was very impressed with the way the IDF ran check-points. I talked to a check-point commander in Jenin, for example, very impressed with what I saw; very impressed with the security fence which is clearly having an impact in those sectors of the West Bank where it's been erected.[Inaudible]

AJ: Well I know this. We sure need one of those on the southern border of the US.

MS: [Laughs]

AJ: And I want one. That thing's beautiful.

MS: Well I think your southern border is a bit porous and as we've seen on 9/11, porous borders can present dangers. And er �

AJ: Well I'm not kidding, I've literally seen photos of that thing and I start salivating on it.

MS: Yeah.

AJ: Because just the raping and killing and robbery and Mexican troops and killing federal officers, and our news doesn't even report on it. I mean it is bedlam on our southern border.

MS: Your southern border is not particularly well protected, with every respect to the guys and girls who are down there protecting it. But, no, they need more resources and er �

AJ: But back to the IDF, I'm sorry for interrupting.

MS: Well I'm a big fan of the IDF. I was very impressed meeting and talking with erm, from soldiers up to generals. I think the IDF are doing a good job. I think the Israelis know far more about counter-terrorism than we do in Britain or in the United States. My general line with Israel is I think, we in the west, the rest of the west � Israel is part of the west � we need to get off the Israelis' back and let them go and do the job. They do know what they're doing.

AJ: Well certainly they know how to build a fence and I wish we had one of those.

Ms: [Laughs] The fence is very impressive. It's more than a fence of course, it's a, you've got a ditch, you've got a roadway that allows regular patrolling, easy access to any terrorist incursion, good surveillance, some good, high-tech stuff there. The security barrier is a very impressive development.

AJ: Yeah. Let's go ahead and now and, who's up next in line here, Stephanie? Ian in Canada, you're on the air with our guest. Go ahead.

Ian: Thanks Alex. I wanted to ask your guest, I wanted to explore the occultic implications of David Kelly's death and by illustration I want to refer to a case that he may be familiar with � Air Marshall Sir Peter Horsley - they tried to take him out like Diana, with rigged brakes on his BMW in the mid-80's, just between Amesbury Circle and Stonehenge, about 660 yards, if you can believe it, into his drive west along the motorway. There was that occultic association and what I'm wondering is because David Kelly, you reported, probably died on July 17th which is right in the middle of that high holiday they celebrate at Bohemian Grove, Alex. That was the date that �

AJ: I'll tell you what, let me bring this up to him. I don't know if he's aware of it but Skull and Bones, admittedly a weird, occult organisation; Bohemian Grove, I snuck into it, that was on national British television, the footage I shot a few years ago. It's also aired here. In some of these killings, they do seem to do it in a ritualistic fashion; that was brought up with Princess Diana. Do you want to get into that or is that too�?

MS: No. I don't see, with respect to you in Canada - I don't know where abouts in Canada you are, but it's a great country � I don't see any occult relationship with the Kelly assassination at all. I'm not familiar with, I don't know Sir Peter Horsley and I'm not familiar with that. Was that an attempted assassination?

Ian: He claims that he was being used to take somebody else out, but they rigged his BMW and I believe he was �

AJ: See here's the problem. We can't solve this other stuff in that we can't prove, Ian. Then when the news goes and listens to this interview it's, you know, discussions of you know, things we can't prove. That's the problem.

Ian: Well Alex, if the guest wants to explore this, the book that Sir Peter wrote is `Voices From Another Room' and he'd find it in the UK.

AJ: Okay. Well thank you for that. I really appreciate it.

MS: I know plenty of air marshalls, I'm sure I can find an air marshall who knows or knew Sir Peter.

AJ: Alright. And I guess up next is Wayne. Wayne, where are you calling us from? Okay, Wayne is gone. Let's go ahead and go to Bob in California. Bob go ahead. You're on the air Bob.

Bob: I'm kinda sorry I'm not on topic today. I wanted to call you about the Diebold machines that our county is using on us for touch-tone voting.

AJ: Y'know what, I'm gonna put you on hold and we'll get to you coming up in the next segment. I wanna �

MS: Good morning Bob. That's an interesting subject but not one on which I could give any qualified comment.

AJ: [Laughs] Well we've got so many callers here it's hard to figure out who's calling in on subject. It would be nice if they did call in on subject.

MS: You're a popular guy, Alex, and I can understand having listened to your show why you've got a lot of feedback.

AJ: Ah, well it's great. A lot of great people out there. We've obviously got to have you back on because you're a very intelligent, very informative person because there's not many people I get on the show who end up knowing more about intelligence matters, because I study it, pretty much perpetually. You've brought out some very important information and I really want to thank you for coming on the show Mr Shrimpton.

MS: Alex, it's been my pleasure and a privilege.

AJ: And for those that just joined us, again, Michael Shrimpton, a national intelligence lawyer or barrister in England, and he writes for major intelligence journals and has consulted around the world on intelligence matters and he was coming on, exposing the murder of Dr David Kelly. Do you think those that were responsible will ever be brought to justice sir?

MS: I don't think they will. I think those immediately responsible are already dead. My guess is they were taken out within 24-48 hours of the assassination. I suspect those involved in tasking the assassination will be dealt with informally and will be given valuable guidance and the public will not get to know about it, and my guess is that the coroner, Nick Gardiner, who has jurisdiction to hold an inquest will not hold an inquest. That means no jury will ever enquire into the reasons for David Kelly dying.

AJ: Alright. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. We'll be back folks.

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AJ: Joining us from the radio studios there in Houston is Greg Palast, joining us for a full hour. Greg, great to have you back on the show.

GP: Alex, it is a real privilege. You are the bit of light that is breaking through the electronic Berlin Wall. For those who don’t know me, I report for BBC television, which is a major news outlet of the world except it doesn’t come into the U.S., my reports are basically blacked out. The only way I can get through is if you hear me on Alex Jones or a few courageous radio stations. You’ve done tremendous work Alex. And you are right. I’m considered a real annoyance, a pain in the bottom to both the Republicans and Democrats because I’m an investigative reporter. I have to go after both. And today, the reason I want to come on today is to break a bit of news. And especially today, my book is coming out from Penguin Press, “The Best Democracy Money Can Buy,” comes out just today. And I asked Alex if I could launch the book on his program – not on the usual suspects on the big networks. I think that this is where I want to be. So coming out is “The Best Democracy Money Can Buy”, it is the real story of the Bush family, the Democrats, the Republicans, it has everything from 9/11 to the theft of the election in Florida to the World Bank and IMF secret documents that I’ve uncovered. I’ve got brand new stuff – this is a hardback, this is completely rewritten, it’s twice as long...

AJ: And Greg, I’m not trying to toot my horn or your horn but the example of what one person can do. People say, “well what can I do?” Whoever leaked the Patriot Act II in the Justice Dept. is causing them big problems. The person, one of our listeners who made a transcript, when you were on the show back in March 4th, that was published in hundreds of newspapers. That was translated into all these languages. It shows what the alternative media can do. Can you speak to that?

GP: That’s right. Well, I have to say, back in March I was on your program and I broke the fact that I obtained a series of documents marked secret and confidential from inside the IMF and the World Bank, which basically nation-by-nation laid out plans for reorganizing these nations’ economies. They are basically plans for financial coup d’tats in places like Argentina, Bolivia, Tanzania. And, needless to say, those are plans which benefited a few New York financiers and a few corporations, to their benefit.

AJ: And the plans detailed out to blow-out economies, cause riots, take over the government and install a new government.

GP: And I have to say that our interview ran on the front page of papers in Turkey, Argentina. In fact, it’s been translated into something like forty languages. And I have to tell you that finally the mainstream press is picking it up because it’s been a year since that broadcast but this month Harper’s Magazine, which is of course one of the great voices of the New York establishment. It’s a terrific journal. They are running that story now with copies of some of the documents. I have brand new stuff. So Alex, you are a year ahead of the pack. It’s going to be all over the place now. It’s in the book, by the way. My discussions with you and the newest information....

AJ: You’re kidding. You put that, because I have your hardback, you’re saying the new edition coming out in how many languages, has our interview?

GP: Well, I have your interview in something like twelve languages in the book. In the U.S. edition, I make mention of it. You are acknowledged in the back for the stand-up work that you have done.

AJ: Wow, I didn’t know that. Well, thank you Greg. That just shows that alternative media can have an effect.

GP: Well, it’s not alternative.

AJ: You’ve got some new bombshells today.

GP: Yeah, well there’s a few. One of the stories that I broke on BBC television was that before September 11th, FBI agents and CIA agents told BBC television that they were blocked from investigating certain members of the bin Laden family in America who were tied to suspect terrorist organizations. And that they could not investigate Saudi Arabian funding of al Qaeda and other terrorist groups. And they were very frustrated that they could not do this investigation before September11th. The other documents showing the investigations were, some of them were permitted to go forward beginning September 13th, 2001. And I have to say, I don’t know whether George Bush had any knowledge or pre-knowledge of September 11th or any of that, but what I was investigating though was why were the intelligence agencies told to stay away. And I want to give you a piece of information, Alex, which some is in the new book and some will be on your show for the first time today.

One of the things I am very concerned about, BBC learned about from two completely separate sources – is about a meeting in June of 1996 in Paris between Saudi Arabian billionaires, international arms dealers and the finance arm of al Qaeda. And there was a discussion about how much the Saudis would pay to al Qaeda and these other so-called charities that were really fronts for terrorist organizations. My view is that the Saudis were going to pay off these guys to get out of Saudi Arabia. That was the month that nineteen American servicemen were killed in Saudi Arabia when al Qaeda blew up the Khobar Towers. The nineteen American servicemen were dead and so the Saudis, rather than to go after these guys, said we’ll write them a big check and tell them to go play in Afghanistan. And I was wondering why the intelligence agents were not free, were not free by the Bush Administration, to really to go after that source of funding. You know the old rule of investigation is follow the money. If you can’t look at Osama bin Laden’s piggy bank and you can’t check out his checking account, you are not going to know what he’s up to. So I found out who was at the meeting. And one guy at the meeting, according to two separate sources is a rich Saudi named Sheikh Abdullah Bakhsh, at least is how it is spelled in English.

AJ: And was involved in Harken back in the 70s.

GP: Boy are you – you’ve got a good memory. You know exactly what it comes from. This guy was supposedly in this meeting about funding al Qaeda. What we also know is that when George W. Bush was in the oil business, he made millions in the oil business but he never struck oil. But he seemed to strike the pockets of several Saudi Sheikhs. Every time he had an oil venture going south, he had one called Arbusto and another called Spectrum – finally those were bought up by Harken Oil. A Gulf Sheikh would come in and put up the money to pull George W. out of the financial fire. And it was Sheikh Abdullah Bakhsh who was the big money helping to refinance Harken Oil and save George W. from, basically from bankruptcy in the oil business. So this is the guy - you know when our president says there are thousands of people out there trying to kill us and people supporting terror, he might want to look at some of his own business partners.

AJ: Isn’t he one of the richest people in Saudi Arabia – and also bin Laden’s older brother was involved in it too right here in Texas.

GP: Well, you know he did have – I haven’t been able to get the information on the Texas story. You may have more information on that. What I was concerned about is that there are two members of the bin Laden family in Washington, D.C. and Virginia Falls, which overlooks the Pentagon. And Abdullah and Omar bin Laden – now you have to be careful, there are lots of Abdullahs and there are lots of Omar bin Ladens. Remember Osama has 52 brothers and sisters. That’s quite a family. So not all of them with the name bin Laden or even Abdullah are suspect. But these two guys and you have this on your program because this was from the FBI document 199I which is a national security secret document which the agents basically dropped off for us because they were upset that they couldn’t investigate these guys. And they were fronting an organization called WAMY which sounds very nice - the World Assembly of Muslim Youth – and they do actually support little baseball teams and basketball teams and that type of thing. But I thought some of their films for training camps for kids were basically recruitment for suicide bombings, recruitment for Jihad. And this was going on Florida, by the way. And now it turns out that a member of this organization, headed at one point by the bin Ladens and by the Saudi Royal family, turns out to be the conduit for the tapes of Osama bin Laden to al Jazeera television. A guy was just arrested in Somalia from WAMY. This is the organization that the FBI wanted to investigate and they were told, “Back off.” And we have to be concerned about is whether – I’m very concerned about whether the Bush family’s finances are prejudicing their view of how to conduct foreign policy, how to handle the intelligence....

AJ: Well, in 2001, the Wall Street Journal called for the Bushes to get out of the Carlyle Group.

GP: Yes, for those who don’t know – if you’ve been listening to Alex, I’m sure you do know – that the bin Laden family is one of the funders of the Carlyle Group. And you know, this is one of the problems that you run into with many things. You talk about the Homeland Security and the USA Patriot Act. One of the things that’s coming out of the book – and if you don’t mind me mentioning the book out today is “The Best Democracy Money Can Buy,” acknowledging the great work of Alex Jones to get this word into the USA. Like I say it’s mainstream stuff in the rest of the world but I’m kind of put out as a pariah on U.S. television....

AJ: Well they now admit universal censorship – they are actually telling them from the nightly news rooms to the Grammy’s there will be no criticism of the Fuehrer.

GP: Well I’ve got to tell you, I had Dan Rather on my show in Britain, another reporter was questioning him and he said, “Look we can’t ask the tough questions about September 11. We can’t ask tough questions about the war in Iraq. I know we should but we just can’t do it because I’ll be roasted unpatriotic.” And when this questioning becomes unpatriotic, Alex, it really gets me a bit concerned.

AJ: Well, Teddy Roosevelt said that was the definition of being patriotic.

GP: Well, you know when you are talking about Homeland Security and keeping track of you private finances, whether you own a legal weapon, etc., who is the company making the money off this? Forbes Magazine says that we don’t know who lost the war on terror but we sure know who’s won it: a company called ChoicePoint. You’ll find this in the book, which is, “The Best Democracy Money Can Buy.” And what is interesting about ChoicePoint, if you remember I broke a story in BBC that before the Florida election of 2000, Kathryn Harris and Jeb Bush knocked off 57,000 legal voters off the voter rolls. And it turns out that most of them were black. It’s not that they were prejudiced against blacks but they didn’t like the fact that they generally vote democratic. And who gave them this list of voters – supposedly they were knocked off because they were felons and evil-doers who are not allowed to vote in Florida. Well, it turns out that all of those people, 90.2% of the people on that list were innocent. And that swung the election. Who came up with that rotten little list – it was a company called ChoicePoint. Who is the biggest contractor for the war on terror and Homeland Security for spying on Americans? ChoicePoint. They picked the president and the president has picked them for the total information awareness business. And now they want your blood, Alex. You’ll find this is in the book, too. It is a company called Bode Technologies which has been getting a lot good air play because they supposedly find all the kiddies who, when you see their pictures on the milk cartons – missing children, they use DNA samples to find the missing kids. It’s a very heart-warming story. And they encourage you to send them your blood and your DNA and your hair and all that, if your kid gets lost. What they should tell you is that this company, Bode Technologies, is also the biggest contractor for the FBI for supplying their DNA coded system.

AJ: Well, they’ve even said – I’ve had one of these individuals on the show, who had pushed back in the early 90s for a federal law that we all have to give DNA at birth. And now it’s come out that one of those blood tests they’ve been doing – most of the states now have been caught but they keep doing it – they say it’s a blood test for your baby. They take three ampoules, one goes to the health department, which is the blood test, one goes to the state and one goes to the feds. They’ve got illegal DNA databases. And again this is just being done and it’s always shadowy CIA front companies involved in it, as you just mentioned.

GP: Well, in fact, the company, Bode Technologies is a 100% owned subsidiary of the company that made Bush president – ChoicePoint. The same company, I mean for picking our president, they’ve done very well for themselves while the rest of the stock market is going down the tubes, this company is rising.

AJ: Well yeah, look at it. The oil is up, the bank is up, the security, the police state stocks are all up. This is our new economy – a gulag.

GP: So I have some chapters as to who is really winning the war on terror, in the book, in "The Best Democracy Money Can Buy.” And I’ve got to tell you that we’ve got other problems. Not only is the Bush family deeply involved with Saudi Arabia – it’s like “see no Saudi evil, hear no Saudi evil, speak no Saudi evil” – which is fine if that helps the interests of the United States. But one has to ask when you have 15 of 19 hijackers coming from Saudi Arabia, what’s really going on here? I am very concerned. And I have to tell you, I have spoken to agents, FBI agents, CIA agents. And some of them and you know those are agencies that have done some pretty strange things that we wish they hadn’t done but there are a lot of guys in there who are really trying to protect America.

AJ: That’s why we are getting all these leaks now.

GP: That’s right. And not one of them said, Alex, if we didn’t have the Bill of Rights, we could have gotten these guys. If we didn’t have personal freedoms, we could have gotten these guys.

AJ: But Ashcroft and others, and George Will are now saying exactly that – while we leave the borders wide open. Greg, let me just for a second, I know you’ve got some other news you want to break here. And we are honored to have you. Bill Moyers reported on something that MSNBC, that the New Yorker Magazine, and FOX just mentioned a year ago. That as Konduz and Kandahar were falling – then it was 6000, now it’s upwards of 8000 – cream of the crop al Qaeda and Taliban were loaded on U.S. government aircraft with ISI and flown out to safety. And we know that the Republican Senate report in 1999 said that al Qaeda was being funded by Clinton, that means the CIA, to attack the Serbs and start that war. And so here we have the government flying them out and Bill Moyers, I read part of his transcript yesterday, said well they did fly them out – it’s just an accident. You start connecting all this together. We know they were CIA assets in the past. You start connecting it all together. Greg, I know you’re a BBC reporter, you can’t go out on a limb here, I do because I have the facts and all of it together. This thing is a giant operation. We were kooks to say prior knowledge. That’s now admitted fact. I think you’ve got more than prior knowledge; you’ve got funding and training – the LA Times reported tens of millions of dollars in early 2001 being sent to the Taliban. The only Taliban leader to be held by our government was the one guy who blew the whistle about 9/11. He stayed behind thinking he would be a hero. They grabbed him. He’s off to some undisclosed location. They have this top Taliban general, the Washinton Times reported, the CIA ordered his release. I mean all of these pieces together. What do you have to say about that?

GP: Well, that’s what I’m hunting down, the pieces. I’ll let you put it together, Alex. I just provide the dots. You can make the connections. One of the reasons why I believe that the bin Laden connection to this terrorist organization was not hunkered down before September 11th – their front organization or the recruiting organization, however you want to call it – is that, as you said, it started really with the Daddy Bush administration and carried through the Clinton administration.

AJ: What about when Larry Klayman got up on national TV and said, “We can’t tell you what we know. Here’s a letter threatening to arrest us.” He had Robert Wright, the FBI agent. And then he added to all of this, that the Bushes, by the way, vacation with the bin Ladens. That’s all I can say. It’s amazing, Greg.

GP: Yeah, well, the backing of the Chechens, that’s just all blow-back. I mean these guys were created by the Bush family.

AJ: Tell you what, stay there Greg Palast. Quick break....

GP: We’ve got the IMF stuff, too.

AJ: Yeah we’ve got the new IMF revelations, a bunch of stuff about the election, the CIA military industrial complex take over. We’re joined by Greg Palast. I’m Alex Jones.

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AJ: The second hour is coming up and Greg Palast will be with us for another 35 minutes. We’ll open the phones up a little bit later. The toll free number to talk to Greg Palast is 1-800-259-9231. If you would like to get my documentary films about September 11th or my book, “Descent into Tyranny,” go to infowars.com or net or call toll free 1-888-253-3139, that’s 888-253-3139 or infowars.com. Greg Palast’s website, which we have a link to is gregpalast.com. He has a best selling book, “The Best Democracy Money Can Buy.” You know all this talk about the loving world government democracies; it’s bad enough. We need a constitutional republic. But they’re just calling pure tyranny their loving world democracy and Greg has got a bunch of bombshell news stories, the latest developments, to drop on us. And we are honored to have him here with us today. Greg Palast, continuing with the information. Any other key points you want to add.

GP: There are several. Like you say, the book just came out today, “The Best Democracy Money Can Buy.” The hardback, I think hit the New York Times best seller list because of Alex Jones, because so many of the listeners decided that they needed this information. It shocked everyone. The Times said where did this book come from? Well, Alex, we know. But the new book is a special U.S. edition. It’s double in size of what it was. And one of the new things in there is that we are about to go into Iraq – part of the reason is that Saddam has a bomb. Or he has at least an erector set to make one.

AJ: And who gave him the components?

GP: Yeah, read it right in the book. What you have is we had a defector that came from Saudi Arabia with 14,000 documents in his possession from the Saudi Arabians. The FBI was offered these documents. This was when Bill Clinton was president. The FBI was offered these documents. They said, “No thanks, we are not allowed to look.” But I can tell you what was in those documents. One of the things was information that the Saudi Arabian government gave $7 billion to Saddam to build his bomb. And that happened during the Reagan-Bush administration because at that time, remember, we didn’t have an axis of evil. We had a unicycle of evil: Iran. And the idea was that we give Saddam the bombs so he could shake it at the Iranians. We didn’t care if he had a bomb. You know it’s very interesting. So, that’s in the book....

AJ: Rumsfeld just wasn’t the bagman for the saran, the VX, the West Nile, the anthrax, the botulism. For six months over there, he also was involved on the board of ABB, transferring nuclear reactors that could produce 100 warheads per year, that we know learn, to North Korea. So they go set up these people. It’s always Bush former associates. It’s always bin Laden or Saddam or Noriega. It’s always somebody they arm and then we got to have our kids march off to death in this World War III when Bush says it’s a new hundred-year war.

GP: Well yeah, it’s kind of all war, all the time - economy – hoping that that will save our economy. And some of the goofy things they are doing, for example, one of the big projects – our government is now busting the budget to order three dozen Virginia class nuclear submarines. These are supposed to attack Soviet subs. Well there aren’t any Soviet subs. There is no Soviet Union. So what they are doing is making them war on terror machines to fight the war on terror. But they are loading these billion dollar babies with are torpedoes - listen to this one Alex, you’ll love this one - torpedoes, which will be filled with nine Marines. I don’t know where they are going to get the volunteers for the torpedo. We are going to fight the war on terror by landing Marines, Navy Seals and Marines on the beaches. Israelis do this type of command operation; they use canoes. We are going to use a $1.6 billion submarine to fire torpedoes filled with Navy Seals.

AJ: Stay right there, Greg Palast. I want to get back to the World Bank and the IMF. When you were on this show on March 4th, you said there is going to be a coup in the next month and there was an attempted coup two weeks later – actually a week and a half later. We want to talk about the World Bank/IMF – how they brag about how they are going to destroy all these economies, how they institute the police state, who is really behind all this. It’s all coming up and your calls.

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AJ: In this email that Greg Palast sent me, he said, “you are allowing me to speak about the sinister and secretive plan of the IMF/World Bank and now it’s become mainstream approval. This is my exposure.” This is his exposure of inside documents from inside the New World Order will be featured in this month’s Harper’s Magazine. And then we have the New York Times last week, Richard Bernstein, “Nations seek world order centered on UN not U.S.” And it says “the meeting was saturated by the World Bank with the heads of Europe. The meeting was saturated with a commitment to what may be viewed as a form of world government, the supervision of countries by international civil service bureaucracy.” And this is all run by the World Bank and the IMF. And it’s not freedom-loving; it’s tyranny-loving. It’s the new empire. It’s not about left or right. It’s about organized crime syndicates.

Ladies and gentlemen, and joining us is Greg Palast who was just talking about confirmed connections to the bin Laden family and the Bushes with the WAMY group being protected in these meetings in the late 1990s. And Bush protecting these people, as well as Clinton doing it and how all this ties together. And now how the military industrial complex is winning the war on terror, that is winning the profits of the hundreds of millions of dollars of profits. They say it will be a $1.7 to $1.9 trillion. That’s very important - 1.7 to 1.9 trillion dollars – five year occupational war costs in Iraq. Greg Palast, getting back into the latest revelations of the IMF/World Bank documents. They have never denied that you got those from a secret source. They just tried to spin it but it has caused a firestorm. How are they dealing with this now that the evidence came out that they were orchestrating the implosion of economies?

GP: Well, what they are doing is once again saying that I’m a conspiracy nut. It always gives the conspirators a good laugh. What’s happened is that they have a problem in that they vilified me and they vilified the guy who interpreted the documents. He didn’t hand me the documents but he interpreted them - the former chief economist of the World Bank. He knew that these documents were authentic. And his name is Joe Stiglitz. And they’ve got a problem because they were vilifying him as a nutcase and an evil guy and then he just won the Nobel Prize in Economics. So this is a Nobel Prize winner who set out the information we had was authentic. What these are are documents - some of them are called nicely, politely country assistance plans but they direct these nations to give up their resources. For example, in the nation of Ecuador, it says that this country could receive no international funds. It’s just like you can’t go to the bank and get a mortgage or you can’t get a house. They were going to cut off their financing unless they met what they call conditionalities. One of the conditionalities was that a permit be given to British Petroleum for a pipeline over the Andes and that they give their gas to British Petroleum. In the case of Argentina, they required the nation to give up its water system to a company named Enron. And you know who was lobbying for Enron. I discovered, and it’s brand new to my book. My book, by the way, again came out today, “The Best Democracy Money Can Buy.” The brand new U.S. revised edition. And in this new U.S. edition, I say who benefited from that World Bank dictate to Argentina to turn over its gas supplies, its oil supplies and its water supplies to Enron and a couple of other operators. The Public Works Minister of Argentina got a call from a guy named Jeb Bush saying, “Listen my daddy was just elected president.” This is in 1988. And he would appreciate and it would create good relations with the United States if you would please give a company named Enron that contract for Argentina’s gas. And the guy from the Public Works Minister in Argentina was horrified because Enron was only going to pay one-fifth of the world price for this stuff. What was the Bush family doing getting involved in that?

AJ: Amazing. It’s criminal and on top of it, the World Bank/IMF documents also state how their actions, grabbing the water, the roads, the fuel, the forests, will cause riots. And how that’s good because they get to crack down even more. We’ll be right back in three minutes with Greg Palast to launch into the latest revelations about the IMF/World Bank takeover. And how it’s finally breaking into the mainstream news, then your calls.

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AJ: The organization of the FBI was blocked from investigating by Clinton and Bush, who is headed by the U.S. bin Laden families now unquestionably tied to terrorism. The new book is “The Best Democracy Money Can Buy.” It’s already a best seller and now it’s in paperback, twice the size, and a lot of information coming out in paperback today around the country. We are joined by Greg Palast. And coming up in a few minutes, we are going to go to your calls. John and Jan and others who are patiently holding. The toll free number to join us on air nationwide is 1-800-259-9231. Greg Palast, getting back to the IMF/World Bank, you detailed in our interview on March 4th, that there would be a coup, guaranteed you said. You don’t, again, go out on limbs, you obviously have the documentation. How did you know there would be a coup? And the military grabbed him, he was about to have an accident and suddenly there were riots and they had to release him. How did you know that was going to happen?

GP: That was the president of Venezuela. Well, there was not much guessing because I know how these guys operate and I was able to get the word from the plotters. And I have my hands into both camps. I try to get the information – it turns out that OPEC got advanced warning of what was about to happen. Now the problems that we run into – you know, no one is looking at Venezuela except for you and a few people. The war is aimed at Iraq....

AJ: But this is where we get most of our oil.

GP: Right, our oil coming into Texas is heavy Venezuelan crude. It was Venezuela that broke the Arab oil embargo in ’73. And the Bush Administration wants to make sure that we have control of Venezuela’s oil now. So they keep talking about Iraq.....

AJ: Yeah, so they can keep oil prices high during the war. They don’t want Venezuela bringing in cheap crude. They want to rip you off at the pump. I hope you enjoy it. Heating fuel has doubled in prices.

GP: Yeah, it’s gone crazy. And then now also this story about the World Bank. As you know, I went through the documents from the World Bank, marked secret, and one of the things it had in there – it says well if you go ahead with these plans, we know, for example, in the case of Ecuador. If we go ahead and require you to double the price of cooking gas in Ecuador, because that’s the only way you can cook your food in Ecuador is with bottled gas. So this is like life and death, you increase the price of food, you increase the price of gasoline, you increase the price of cooking gas, we know that this will create what they call social unrest. And when they did that, of course, the social unrest, what they mean by social unrest, I wasn’t quite sure and said it looks like there was going to be a riot if they impose these plans and they know it. And Joe Stiglitz is the chief economist for the World Bank and he was the guy on the inside. He said, “Oh yeah, that’s what we call the IMF riot.” So the riot was written into the plan. And then it says the government has to respond with political resolve and strong resolve. They keep using that term. That means troops in the streets.

AJ: Greg Palast, I want to go back for a second here. This is so important. We cannot just glaze over this, folks, you’ve got to listen carefully. And so they would create the climate, to create the disaster, offer a police state solution and then before that they don’t want this Venezuelan crude coming into the country to keep prices down. They want a staged war where they will make massive profits on increased gas prices. This is total criminal activity.

GP: Well, you know what’s happening is that also Hugo Chavez is President of Venezuela has been vilified by the liberal press, by the right press, by the establishment press. And he is the guy who just said, “Look, we are poor brown people down here and we need a few extra bucks,” and as his minister told me, he is the dissenter of the New World Order and they can’t let him stay in office. They have to kill him. They have to get rid of him now because he said no to these plans. If the IMF comes to you - and the World Bank guys, they fly in their teams and they stay at the big intercontinental hotels, in the 5-star hotels, and then they dictate their plans, an average of 114 conditions, an average, to each nation’s finance minister. And they have a pre-written document with a place for his signature. So it’s voluntary. It’s voluntary like they have this financial gun to this guy’s head.

AJ: Well, it’s like Don Corleone in “The GodFather” – an offer you can’t refuse.

GP: Right, so of course they sign-off. Usually these plans are kept secret or partly secret and people only see the effects. Suddenly the prices of gasoline or oil rise and suddenly food prices rise. People don't know what’s going on and their pensions are cut. Last week in Bolivia, 35 people were killed because the IMF ordered, the IMF ordered a massive increase in taxes on working people there. And while they cut salaries, people couldn’t afford it. Taxes were bigger than their salaries, so they rioted. But the IMF knew there was going to be a riot. Like you say, riots have their value because then that allows the reaction....

AJ: We caught them at demonstrations here. The feds in Seattle hiring provocateurs, housing them, so sometimes they provocateured as well. But people in the third world are starting to get wind of this because of your writings and work and because of the listener with the transcript that went worldwide and then to hundreds of newspapers, as you said. But the thing that folks have to understand here is that they are doing it here in another fashion. And they are telling police, and I’m getting this all over the country, Greg, that they are going to engineer a major financial implosion here. And that they have been issuing riot gear and riot training – and I’m not kidding – Humvees with microwave guns. And the Sunshine Project reported, helicopters with knock-out gas. I mean, it is an insane police state they are setting up for an engineered collapse here. Are you getting that from your sources?

GP: What I’m getting, I haven’t looked at the police side of this, I’m looking at the intelligence side. What is breaking down now, for example, when I talk about the company getting the DNA samples, they say this is private; we don’t turn it over to government. ChoicePoint is the company that fixed the election in Florida, says we have 20 billion pieces of data on Americans. And that is supposed to be private data but under the USA Patriot Act, every little bit of that information is suddenly opened without a search warrant for the first time in American history – without a search warrant....

AJ: And it gives liability protection to the companies doing the DNA and other data mining.

GP: Yeah, data mining which is done without search warrants. They can go through your private records now for the very first time. So when these companies say it is all private – no it ain’t – not under the new law, it ain’t. And that’s one of the big problems. And I have to tell you, agents aren’t saying we need that to capture the bad guys. They know where the bad guys are. They just want to be able to use the laws that already exist.

AJ: Yeah, they’re on C-130s getting flown out of Kandahar.

GP: You know and I’ve got to tell you, when you look at who is doing the data mining, there is a company called Syntech, which was hired, which was given a big fact contract by John Poindexter, who is head of this Total Information Awareness Program.

AJ: Who is a convicted felon.

GP: Five felony convictions – they were overturned on technicalities, Alex, I have to say. But you’ve got a guy running our spy agency who has had five felony convictions. Yes, they were overturned on technicalities but it was serious...

AJ: By a political judge.

GP: Yes, so what happened, the company Syntech, which is getting the big contracts to do the data mining on Americans. The senior vice president was until recently John Poindexter – the guy in charge of Total Information Awareness. These guys are like....

AJ: Greg, have you read the new Patriot Act?

GP: Just parts, it’s so big and so mind boggling..

AJ: Well, I read all of it and wrote an analysis. It’s on infowars.com if you want to pick it up on your site – so all of your millions of viewers can distribute it. I read the whole thing and it’s been picked up by quite a few papers who have asked for permission to reprint. I read it when it first came out three weeks ago. It turned out there was a Senate version, S. 22 already introduced. And so now, Ashcroft and his minions are out promoting it. This thing says that they can grab American citizens for any reason, secretly, hold them in detention camps and not even tell anyone that they were grabbed.

GP: You know, there is an organization which sued the U.S. government and simply asked for lists of people being held in detention – not even asking for open trials, simply asking for the list of those who are held in detention. And, you know, the government just dragged its feet. I am very concerned that there are two things – one, like I say there are those people who are connected financially to the Bush family and who seem to be getting a nice free ride on investigations. And yet, there are Americans, we don’t know who they are because we can’t get the list. And we don’t even know how many. I am very concerned about this. I know you are. And it’s the personal question of our civil liberties. I have to report these stories on BBC television which goes all over the planet. But I just moved my family back to the United States. I want my kids to be Americans but I want them to have the American that I learned about in school. You know, freedom of speech and the government doesn’t snoop around your home or your bank account or go through your underwear drawer.

AJ: Well, I just want to point out that they are saying all this. They say more attacks are coming and that will legitimize Patriot Act II. Now we are hearing about Patriot Act III and while they leave the borders wide open. Greg, let’s take some calls. John in Florida, you are on the air with Greg Palast, go ahead John.

John: Thank you for taking my call and thank you for all your hard work – both of you – and I mean that very sincerely. My question is going to be directed to something that happened many years ago but Greg, maybe you can shed some light on this, is what happened to the falling out of what was called, twenty years ago, of BCCI? How everyone from that conglomerate, internationally known, has been recycled in some way, shape or form to these institutions that you speak of?

AJ: Well Clark Clifford, the author of the National Security Act, that made the government go secret, I’ve talked to Greg and BCCI is involved, aren’t they - the same players?

GP: Yeah, Khalid bin Mahfouz was the principal of BCCI which was bank of , it was a Saudi Arabian bank, BCCI. And its nickname was bank of crooks and criminals. But it was a huge international operation which was basically a giant money laundering operation from crime to terrorism.

AJ: And the Bushes and everybody was involved.

GP: Well, Khalid bin Mahfouz, remember I just told you about how Bush’s partner according to two sources, was at this meeting in which al Qaeda funding was discussed in Paris in ’96. What of the other people in that room? According to two sources, Khalid bin Mahfouz of BCCI. So, you know, it’s the same crew. Look, I can’t blame George Bush for these guys having some secret meeting. You know he wasn’t invited as far as I know. But the FBI and CIA would really like to follow up on these things so they could find out what these characters are up to.

GP: Anything else John?

John: I just wanted to make – that BCCI isn’t talked about enough – I just wanted to throw that in there.

GP: Yeah, BCCI technically has now collapsed and taken billions of dollars down the rat hole. But the principals in this operation....

AJ: Well they always have their fronts, whether it’s BCCI or Enron.

John: Thank you, Alex.

AJ: Thank you, John. We’ll come back and talk to others with our guest Greg Palast. The new book just came out today, “The Best Democracy Money Can Buy,” doubled in size. The hardback was a best seller. His web site is gregpalast.com. We have a link to that at infowars.com. I’m Alex Jones, your host. Final segment with Greg Palast, your calls and other key news items when we get back. Stay with us.

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AJ: We are talking to Greg Palast. We only have time for a couple more calls and any other comments he wants to make. Let’s talk to Jan in Montana. You are on the air, welcome.

Jan: Good morning Alex and Greg. It’s still morning in Montana. My question, my comment is there is a name that I have been waiting for Alex to hit on, hard and heavy this week and I was wondering what Greg Palast has heard about it or any information – Al-Arian. I thought would be a huge chapter in your case against 9/11, Alex. We printed a picture about a year ago when O’Reilly says he broke the story on Al-Arian, the professor from Florida.

AJ: It turns out he has been hanging out with Bush and these other organizations. Greg any comments on that?

GP: Yeah, I just started looking at this. You know the question is whether there were donations again to the Bush family. It’s definitely a line of investigation – once again, where is the American press? You know, I can’t do it all. I’d like my brothers in the American press to be looking at this before the arrests are made – and what is even more dangerous is when the arrests aren’t made at all. It’s a very complex business and I just feel like the U.S. press is just completely fallen down.

AJ: But they won’t talk about a Miami Herald report and there was just a few others that for a few days when all air traffic was shut down, locked down, there were jets leaving Miami and jets leaving Boston Logan full of bin Ladens.

GP: Well, you know the, I know that at least after that the air traffic control limit was lifted, there was a charter jet which flew some of the members of the bin Laden family out. Remember they are not all, they are not terrorists just because their name is bin Laden. The thing is that FBI agents had wanted to contact these people as material witnesses...

AJ: Well, why were they allowed to leave but nobody else could?

GP: Well, I think they had a special charter supposely on the grounds that being bin Ladens, they might be attacked by angry Americans. You know, Americans are not that dumb; they don’t just pick someone’s last name and attack them. We haven’t had any concept of that. In fact, the two guys that the FBI was looking for left even before September 11th – Abdullah and Omar. That was the real tragedy, that those guys had a few questions to answer.

AJ: What about the insider trading? You know that was traced back to some of the airlines themselves and, of course, to some of the CIA people.

GP: That, I haven’t been able to look into. You know, like they say, we need a more active American press. Dan Rather, when he was on my show, said, “Look, we can’t ask tough questions.”

AJ: Art in Kansas, you’re on the air. Go ahead Art. Last caller. Art, you’re on the air.

Art: Are you aware of the connections of the Bushes with the Eli Lilly Company?

GP: Well yeah, of course, there is a financial connection between the Republican administration now.....

AJ: They are throwing out over a thousand lawsuits over autism being directly linked to their vaccine additive.

Art: thimerosal.

GP: I’m also here in Houston, Texas where I’m talking from and one of the big things to look out for in terrorism is an attack on our chemical plants. And, for example, if you live within two miles of the giant Exxon refinery here and they have a pentene release, anyone within two miles is going to have their skin burned off. There are 7000 people living in that vulnerability zone and there are two ways to fix that problem. First, you can make the plant safer and more secure. Or second, you could simply seal up that information so no one will know what the danger is. What they’ve done is that Exxon has now blocked all of the EPA records so you don’t know what the danger is. So if you’re living in a vulnerability zones, you’re still as vulnerable.

Art: I have a newsletter here from Robert Chapman. He says that Bush’s budget director, Mitch Daniels, formerly worked at Lilly. The CEO, Sydney Terrell, sits on the presidential Homeland Security Council. And Bush, Sr. sat on the Eli Lilly board.

AJ: And the new federal trade commission guy is a Skull & Bones member. Thanks for the call, Art. I tell you it’s one big happy family, isn’t it Greg?

GP: Yeah, what I’m worried about is the money poisoning of our political system. It’s not a case of one party or another. What I’m worried about and the reason I called the book “The Best Democracy Money Can Buy,” it looks like they are holding auctions, not elections. And the question is what are these donations buying? That is a very, very big problem. In fact, let me end with one final thing Alex, who won the last Gulf War? After the last Gulf War, remember we were promised a democracy in Kuwait. I’m still waiting for the election returns from Kuwait, from that little royal dictatorship. But who did win? I’ll tell you: Chevron Oil. After Poppy Bush left the White House or he was removed by two-thirds of the American electorate, he wrote a letter to the emirate asking Kuwait to give Chevron Oil an oil concession. The ex-president of the United State, the guy who saved their Rolls Royces, asked them to give Chevron Oil. They did that and his son got a half of a million bucks for his campaign kitty.

AJ: Unbelievable. Thanks for joining us Greg Palast and good luck with your new book. I appreciate your coming on the show and your great work.

GP: Alex, you’re the best. Truth to power.

Alex Jones Show - February 25 2004

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AJ: He put on a symposium a few years ago that made headlines in major newspapers, in Portugal. We had one of those articles posted. And it says,

"Portugal-based investigative journalist has presented The News, with the version of the September 11th attacks that has to-date failed to attract the attention of the international press. The report, compiled by the independent inquiry into the September 11th World Trade Center attack, warns the American public that the government's official version of the events does not stand up to scrutiny."

And the man who put this on was Col. Donn de Grand , who's an American in a 72-hour non-stop symposium, deliberation by a group of military and civilian pilots under the chairmanship of Col. Donn de Grand. After deliberating non-stop for 72-hours, has concluded the flight crews of the four passenger airliners involved in the September 11th tragedy had no control over their aircraft.

They get into how the globalists clearly carried it out. Now, this was two years ago, folks. A very cutting edge... Now the mainstream foreign press has addressed it. And most Europeans believe the U.S. government carried it out. A lot of Americans are now waking up. And talking to this trailblazer, cutting-edge pioneer, Col. Donn de Grand. It's an honor, sir, to have you on the show.

DGP: Hey, Alex, it's good to be aboard.

AJ: We are going to break here in about a minute and a-half. Give folks your bio. Tell us about Col. Donn de Grand.

DGP: Well, you've got part of the name correct. It's a hyphened word, the last name is Grand-Pre.

AJ: Yes, it's Col. Donn de Grand-Pre. That's how I addressed you this morning on the website.

DGP: That's alright.

AJ: The Portugal newspaper just says Col. Don de Grand, so....

DGP: That's okay. I've talked to these guys and they're good and they almost got it correct. I'll give you a quick bio. I entered the military in 1944 as an 18-year-old radio operator, morse code. And I was sent to Burma and China. I was attached to the detachment 101 which was OSS and I operated out of Burma. Then later on in Kunming, China, along with such notable people as a tall, skinny gal by the name of Julia Child. She has since put on a little weight and now she's doing television commercials, I guess. But I came back on active duty in 1950 as a commissioned officer, infantry airborne. And I got involved in the Korean fracas for a year-and-a-half until I was wounded. Then I was shipped home for two-years while I recuperated. And then I came back in.....

AJ: I'll tell you what, Col. Donn de Grand-Pre, let's stay right there. Let's recap when we get back and go through the rest of your bio. And then launch into this amazing symposium that you put on two-years ago and why you did it in Portugal. So stay with us. His first interview in over a year and we are honored to have Col. Donn de Grand-Pre.

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AJ: We are talking to Col. Donn de Grand-Pre and we have a news article about an incredible symposium he put on two years ago in Portugal, covered by a front-page newspaper and magazine ' Portugal's other major papers. And a lot of key info came out ' very cutting edge. And this is his first interview since he had a stroke a little over a year ago. It's great to have the Colonel on the show. So, he got into OSS right at the end of World War II, then went into Korea for a year and a half, was wounded, with the airborne. And that's where we left off, Colonel. Please continue with your bio.

DGP: Okay, Alex. Actually I went to work then for Sec. Def. Bob McNamara. He hired me as the chief arms negotiator for the Middle East. And we conducted our business there. We were known as the super salesmen in ISA, International Security Affairs. And over a ten-year period, we sold over a hundred billion dollars worth of military equipment to all comers. And then, you mentioned the interview in Portugal. I didn't actually go to Portugal but on 11 September, actually it was 12 September, I wrote to my friend Gen. Hugh Shelton, who was Chairman of the Joint Chiefs at that time. He was transited out. And he was replaced by Gen. Richard, what the heck was the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs' The name escapes me. He was a four-star Air Force General. And, Myers, I guess, was the name. At any rate, I called together from 16 to 19 September, in the Pentagon area, not in the Pentagon, a group of military, civilian and general aviation pilots. And for three days, we kicked around what actually happened on 11 September. And then the investigator journalists covered that and it was reported in the Portugal news and very accurate. I have the report in front of me and it is quite involved but if you have some questions, fire away, Alex.

AJ: Well, now you got these military officers together and that's the only place I ever saw it get reported on, was on here in Portugal ' it talked about the symposium. Of course, I read one of your fine books and we'll talk about that as well a little bit later on in the show and take some calls. But, what was laid out, what I saw in the four-page article, two years ago, has turned out to be very accurate. Tell us about the military officers, the pilots, the civilian pilots that were there and the conclusions that you came to in the 72-hour non-stop meeting. Please go over that for us.

DGP: Okay, Alex, the group of pilots and they will remain anonymous were a wonderful mix of commercial, military and civilian pilots. At any rate, after three days, the decisions were unanimous. And I wrote my 24-page report up and submitted it to the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs. And that report ultimately got into the hands of the Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs on 23 January, 2002. The General was U.S. Marine Corp General by the name Peter Pace. And I got a telephone call, 5 March, from one of his horse holders, who is a Colonel Air Force type. He informed me that Gen. Peter Pace had gotten the twenty-four pages and that he and his Sec. had no comment at this time but he used the old Marine Corp lingo, "Semper Fi" or Always Faithful, and we let it go at that. Later on I continued my correspondence with the Vice Chairman and most recently, I got a letter 8 November, 2003 from Peter Pace, to me, carrying on not only about the investigation but about the three books that I have written since that time.

AJ: Now, Colonel, going over your report and the, I guess the committee meeting that you guys had to play out what you believe really happened. Now as more evidence has come out, it shows that that's clearly exactly what happened. Now, they are using 911 to turn this country into a total police state. I mean how do you see us turning this around?

DGP: The turning around is not going to be that easy. I look at the final paragraph of this report. And here is what the final paragraph said. "So far the mainstream American news media has failed to publish or broadcast any details regarding the independent inquiry. Similarly, the White House whilst having received a copy of the report has remained silent on its findings." While we know that a copy, first of all I have to back up a little. The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs had 500 copies of this 24-page report made and sent out, including, to the White House. And I have to say it was including Pres. Bush. So they got a copy of the report.

AJ: That was Myers at the time.

DGP: That is correct.

AJ: And so, he sent out 500 copies, that would mean that he believed it.

DGP: I'm quite sure that he believed in it. I think that he still believes in it. You can understand the difficulties. The civilian administration, of course, won't recognize it as such.

AJ: How did you find out that the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs sent this out?

DGP: I got a telephone call and I think the date was 5 March 2002, stating that at the time, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs had no comment but he used the Marine Corp lingo 'Semper Fi', Semper Fidelity 'always faithful'. And that triggered in me further memos and I traded memos with Gen. Peter Pace and Dick Myers and they continued on until November of last year.

AJ: Well that had to be upsetting to Mr. Rumsfeld to have all these, hundreds of your reports flying around the Pentagon.

DGP: (laughs) Yeah, you see there's a definite cleavage between the military of the Pentagon and the civilian hierarchy - and never the twain shall meet.

AJ: Well, there was an article right after 'that you talk about' in mid-2002 in the Washington Times saying the morale in the Pentagon had never been lower. And you would think it would be high right after 911 and getting together to fight the enemy. But it said that the officers didn't believe in the "mission" or in the intelligence.

DGP: That is correct. That came out of the Washington Times and I can verify that from Col. Dick Schultz, who is a friend of mine in the Joint Chiefs. Morale was not only low but he said some of the troops are ready to mutiny. If it wasn't for the fact that the government, the civilian hierarchy, has control over retirements, they would probably be blood in the streets by now.

AJ: There was also an article where they panicked in the Washington Times, it was also in the Washington Post, they panicked and flew the officers on jets to luxury vacations and had these focus groups. It even talked about a possible mutiny. People were just totally distraught. What would make them become distraught overnight in the Pentagon?

DGP: It wasn't an overnight thing. You see, as I outline in book 1, and I carry that on in book 2, as well as book 3, we were on the verge of a military coup d'etat. And this was long in the planning and even after the 78 days of bombing Kosovo, it became critical. And we were close to a coup d'etat at that time. In my survey of the reports and the pilots who worked with that, a coup was a possibility. In fact, a coup d'etat was pulled on the morning of September 11th. Only it was an administrative or what we call a cold coup d'etat.

AJ: Or reverse coup d'etat.

DGP: Yes, in fact....

AJ: A counter revolutionary junta.

DGP: Well that is correct. And as we delved into that, we found that the culprits, including Rumsfeld, were part of a neocon group that had been planning this thing for literally years prior to September 11th.

AJ: Absolutely, Colonel, it's just amazing picking your brain. We are going to break here. In talking to your this morning, I was proud to know that you've been a listener to this show for a while.

DGP: Well, I've had a single side band short wave set for about 4 years and I listened variously to Alex Jones, particularly up until about 2-years ago, and as a result of the events of September 11th, I did have a stoke. I'm fully recovered. As I told Alex, I went riding my favorite quarter horse this morning. So I'm back and ready for anything.

AJ: Well that's wonderful Colonel. Okay, we'll break and come back with the Colonel and get into all of this ' and later get to your calls, too. So please, stay with us.

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AJ: We'll take some of your calls for Col. Donn de Grand-Pre coming up in the next segment. He's done a lot of great work. I've only read one of his books. Donn, tell us about some of your books, what they cover and how folks can get a copy.

DGP: Okay, I've got three books out, Alex, under the title, "Barbarians Inside the Gates." Book 1 was "The Serpent's Sting," Book 2 is "The Viper's Venom," Book 3 which just came out is "The Rattler's Revenge." And I'd like to quote from Book 2, which came out October of 2002. There is a very important paragraph there. It says, "The trigger for the 911 activity was the imminent and unstoppable world-wide financial collapse which can only be prevented temporarily by a major war, perhaps to become known as World War III. To bring it off one more time, martial law will probably be imposed in the United States."

AJ: And now we've seen Gen. Eberhart say that that's the next step. Tommy Franks said that's the next step. Are those now chilling statements?

DGP: Yes, they are. This next step will be preceded by what I write up in book 1 ' "The Serpent's Sting." I wrote of a coming coup d'etat. And this was written in the year 2000. And sure as blazes, it's coming. And it will be preceded by these kinds of things as enunciated by Tommy Franks, among others. So we are in a world of hurt, Alex.

AJ: Now, by a coup d'etat, you mean another intensification of a reverse coup d'etat to keep the people from fighting against the New World Order or do you mean the type that Bill Clinton successfully stopped in his administration?

DGP: Well, I'm talking about the administrative coup d'etat that came off September 11th.

AJ: You're talking about an intensification of the elite in a coup d'etat against America.

DGP: That is correct.

AJ: Well, I mean, it's ongoing. They are federalizing everything, they are militarizing everything, they're engaging in the classic takeover, are they not?

DGP: Yes, there are. And from this, Alex, and I bring this out very clearly in book 3, the only way we can stop it is with the classic counter-coup d'etat where the military steps in. And under the aegis of the military itself, disengaging or disemboweling the civilian hierarchy and taking over and re-running or re-organizing the federal government.

AJ: Now the problem is they've got so many CFR minions in the Pentagon. We know that Clinton had some officers terminated and, in their office, shot multiple times and the rest of it. We know that that happened but the question is how many of the high level officers are on the globalist team?

DGP: I can only say several of the highest level are members now of the Council on Foreign Relations. The important thing to consider is how many of them are sincere in their beliefs as enunciated by the CFR. I believe there are several sleepers and I believe I know some of them personally who are three and four-star generals. They are members of the CFR but "their heart belongs to Jesus," if I can use that expression because they are true Semper Fidelity people. Some of them happen to be Marines. And I'm counting on them to do the right thing. And I bring this out in book 3.

AJ: Absolutely and we'll tell people how they can get those books. I mean I want to carry them but Colonel, your experience in the military, your experience in the intelligence agencies, there's also the danger though obviously in any military movement of that nature that it could be self-serving as well, and set up its own form of wickedness.

DGP: Yes, that's plausible, that's correct. I don't believe it will happen in exactly that fashion. And the thing about a coup d'etat and a counter-coup d'etat is you never know when it's going to happen. You never know exactly who is involved. This is a plus for any planners of a counter-coup d'etat.

AJ: Well, this is certainly dividing the wheat from the chaff. How many people, and we'll get the answer to the question when we get back from your feelers in the Pentagon, how many people in there now know that an element of the global system, a crime syndicate, carried out 91, I mean, only an idiot would know, would think they didn't but the point is, this has got to be accelerating the division. And I want to get your take on the pulse of that and we'll take calls when we get back. Stay with us.

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AJ: We are talking to Col. Donn de Grand-Pre and he worked in many of the levels of the U.S. military and has put out some really important information. Two years ago, he put out a report in a meeting in a 72-hour deliberation, a group of military and civilian U.S. pilots under the chairmanship of Col. Donn de Grand-Pre. After deliberating non-stop for 72-hours has concluded that the flight crews of the four passenger airliners involved in the September 11th tragedy had no control over the aircraft. And they get into how the military industrial complex clearly, that is elements of it, were in control of this. Colonel, we are going to go to some calls here in a minutes after you cover some other issues with us. But, understand this, my question of what percentage of the officers, period, in the military do you think have finally woken up to the true magnitude of what's going on?

DGP: Well, I'm in personal contact at least on a weekly basis with the Joint Chiefs and other select people. My computation is that 70% of us are with us. That's the higher ranking military, field grade officers, etc. and even the first three grades of the enlisted ' 70% are with us.

AJ: Well, they've had questionnaires, you know, a decade ago, will you fire on U.S. citizens under UN control if the president says so ' and, you know, 74% say no to that. Okay, then how are the globalists getting away with this?

DGP: Sheer [Garbled] bluff and we can thank many of the neocons who are now in power in the Defense Dept. particularly. They get away with it because they try it out and see if anybody will salute the flag and that's the way it goes.

AJ: So basically, they wrap their un-American agenda in a flag and the general public buys it so the military has to sit there and take it.

DGP: They do, yes, and I think those days are coming to an end. The military ain't going to take it any longer.

AJ: How did the military ever get convinced to use depleted uranium in areas where there is going to be troops?

DGP: To put what Alex?

AJ: Well, yeah, the military gets treated like dog meat. You've got the depleted uranium, Colonel, where they spray the depleted uranium everywhere where the troops breathe it at 1900 times safe levels. How can the Pentagon put up with that?

DGP: Well, the DU rounds are over-played, first of all. They aren't that potent and secondarily, we must consider that weapons of mass destruction have already been used by some of the opposition in the period February of 1991. Weapons of mass destruction, including low-yield nuclear weapons.

AJ: Okay, can you break that down for us?

DGP: Well, I break it down in the time frame that we had satellite images of rounds or missiles being fired from the Negev desert toward Baghdad. That's 600 miles distance. And six or eight of the rounds came in. That was February of 1991.

AJ: Are you saying that the Israelis used miniaturized nuclear weapons?

DGP: Yes sir. That's what I'm saying, in plain English.

AJ: Well I remember, I know they bragged that they had a lot of really sophisticated miniaturized nuclear weapons, of the little mini-frogs, or whatever. But and I know there were these giant mushroom clouds on the news. They'd say, "Oh, that's not a nuke. That's just a weapons depot." But you are saying that it is common knowledge at the Pentagon that Israel was firing nuclear weapons at Iraq?

DGP: That is correct.

AJ: Oh, so that's where all this high-level radiation is emanating from?

DGP: That is correct. And I have verification of that. I think it's in book 2. And I think it will stand up in most scrutiny.

AJ: Well, I know your work on September 11th certainly has. Do you think the globalists are going to have the will to carry out another massive attack here in the U.S. to try to get control back over the population and get their agenda back on track? Or do you think they've calculated, computed as you said, that that will blow up in their face because so many people now know who the real terrorists are?

DGP: That's a two-prong question, Alex. I think it deserves a studied answer. The only thing I can say is I'm not sure how it will turn out. But it is very dangerous.

AJ: From watching the globalists, I think they had a plan, they are still following a plan but I think they are shook-up. I think, from the evidence, in fact I know from the evidence, that a lot of things they planned haven't gone according to schedule and so they don't know what to do right now.

DGP: This is correct. I think it's personified in the persona of the Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz. They almost got him in Baghdad when they fired the salvo, one night, of weaponry and they scared Paul Wolfowitz off. He's ready to resign or get the hell out.

AJ: You think that was U.S. forces doing that?

DGP: I believe it. It was very well planned again and ..

AJ: Yeah, only U.S. forces would know that he would be there. Yeah.

DGP: That is correct. And the precision of those weapons that came into the hotel. There were eleven rounds in all and I can speak from authenticity that they scared the hell out of Paul Wolfowitz. And probably, C. Paul Bremer, or whatever his name is.

AJ: Why does the Pentagon hate Wolfowitz?

DGP: Wolfowitz has been in this game since 1974. I was still on active duty when I met him in 1974 and he was coming on strong even then. And along with him, Richard Perle and a couple of the others who are now known as neoconservatives.

AJ: Now Perle had the nickname as the crazy and the prince of darkness. Is that correct?

DGP: That is correct.

AJ: Why was he known as the prince of darkness?

DGP: I can't answer that directly. He was a snake to begin with but nothing was ever straight forward as far as Richard Perle was concerned. I introduced book 3 two quotes stating that Richard Perle is a madman. And it goes on from there.

AJ: Well he is a madman. He was at a press dinner last year and, again, giggling and laughing about how we are going to have World War III, we are going to nuke everyone, ha, ha, ha. And then he goes, "Isn't that impressive" and started grabbing on some women. I mean, he's a complete lunatic.

DGP: That is correct. Richard Perle's days are numbered. I don't know if he realizes it but so many of these so-called neocons, you'll notice now, that they are very quiet indeed. They are not really surfacing anymore, including Dick Cheney.

AJ: Yeah, why is Dick Cheney been literally hiding under a bunker?

DGP: He's been hiding under a bunker most of the time since September 11th.

AJ: And, by the way, it has come out that he took control of NORAD and was saying something in the U.S. ultra-secret bunkers, that he was on loud-speakers ordering people to follow his orders. He had to physically take control of something, from my sources, it was the fact that they were going to go ahead and shoot the aircraft down. That's what I've got from lawyers who represent military officers. We know he was in control through even during the hijackings, the supposed hijackings. What do you know about that?

DGP: Well, not too much really. I can't speak to that because it's hypothetical and what I try to stick to are the cold hard facts.

AJ: Well, Colonel, we know he did take control of the bunkers. I just don't know what he said, according to ABC News but according to my sources which have been very accurate, he was ordering a stand down.

DGP: Yes, I can believe it but again, it's supposition and I still haven't been able to figure out what makes Dick Cheney tick.

AJ: So, well then why is he hiding in a bunker? Why is he at the Naval Observatory in a bunker most of the time?

DGP: I think that that is what he considers to be the safest place at the moment. He's basically a coward and this too will come out. I feel that Dick Cheney and Paul Wolfowitz, both of them, their days are numbered.

AJ: Okay, so politically more and more corruption coming out, more and more of their criminal activities coming out, serious issues. Colonel, how do folks get your books, the three-part series?

DGP: Okay, the book is easy to come by. My incomparable daughter Doneva is the publisher of these books and they are turning out top-grade, library quality books. Books 1, 2, and 3 ' "Barbarians Inside the Gates." They can be obtained by writing to post office box 1124, Madison, Virginia 22727. And send it in care of Grand-Pre Publishing, Ltd. And for the price of $30, you can get book 1. $30 again is book 2. And then for book 3 that just came out and it's a big book, 608 pages, we've had to up the price to $45.

AJ: Alright, these are thick books, jam-packed and the address is PO 1124, Madison, Virginia. And that zip code again'

DGP: 22727.

AJ: Alright and does that $30 include the shipping?

DGP: No, it really doesn't. For the books and we send them all out priority special handling, that's runs $3.85 a book.

AJ: Okay, got you. Alright we'll give that out again a little bit later. So let's go ahead and take some calls.

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AJ: All right, 8 minutes, 30 seconds into this third hour. Again I'm Alex Jones, your host. We'll have our guest with us for another twenty-five minutes or so, then I'm going to get into this big stack of news that we have not detailed yet. Believe me it's all very important. Our guest is Col. Donn de Grand-Pre. Honored to have him on the show. He's the author of a three-part series of books, "Barbarians Inside the Gates." And real quick, John in New York, you had a question about 9/11.

John: It's not a question. I want to make a comment. I was in the Air Force. My career field was radar operations and I was assigned to the Air Defense Command. The airliners turned around at Erie, Pennsylvania and were off-course for approximately one-hour, at the wrong altitude, at the wrong speed, without radio contact and it is absolutely insane for anybody to believe that could have happened unless people were told to stand down.

AJ: Well, Payne Stewart, in 18 minutes had five F-16s around him in the middle of no where. In the most sensitive air corridor in the world, the eastern coast there, D.C./ New York, with these four planes all over the map. And they know there's been hijackings and Dick Cheney's in control. Everything's standing down and ....

John: The fighters that were stationed in Virginia, just across the border from Washington, D.C., could have been flying at bust speed, which is max speed, they could have intercepted those planes in 15 minutes and saved all that tragedy. And the second airplane was 15 minutes behind the first airplane. So to think they didn't do anything about the second one makes it even more ludicrous. So, terrific guest; terrific show. Thanks for taking my call.

AJ: All right, and again, we don't even do this justice to focus on one area. I mean we've got all the public officials being told not to go to New York, the insider trading by the CIA, the Bushes protecting the bin Ladens. Colonel, do you want to comment on that?

DGP: Well, what I was trying to get through here, John has done a beautiful job of laying it all out here on 911. What I want to carry away is that the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs himself has agreed, there were no hijackers. There were no cell phone calls. Everybody aboard that aircraft, pilots and crew, were unconscious within 8 to 18 minutes after take-off. And you can take it from there. I've got it covered in books 2 and 3, what actually happened.

AJ: So, they're knocked out and then the remote control takes place and the rest is history.

DGP: Yeah, there was remote control and .. yes.

AJ: By the way, people don't believe they have that. Kennedy's oldest son, JFK's big brother, died in a chase plane with remote controlling in a bomber loaded with explosives as a drone in 1944.

DGP: That is correct.

AJ: So this very old technology, folks. And for people that are in total denial, it's ridiculous. Let's go ahead and talk to Wayne in Virginia. Wayne, thanks for holding, go ahead.

Wayne: Yes sir, thank you. I have a two-part question. The first part is Colonel..ah.

AJ: Donn de Grand-Pre

Wayne: de Grand-Pre. I'm sorry sir, I stumbled over your name. Could you play the instructor with us ground-pounders for a little while and tell us why, from an airmanship point of view, the maneuvers the aircraft performed were just inexplicable and bordering on the impossible from a pilot's point of view?

DGP: Yes, let me get that real quick for Wayne from Virginia. These planes were being piloted by remote control, probably an AWACs aircraft taking over that airplane or airplanes or drones, unmanned drones. And flying them at 5 and 8 G-force that no pilot could withstand. So, in short, and if you read books 2 and 3, you will discover how and why this came about.

Wayne: The second part of my question is after 911, our Congressman from down here, Randy Forbes spoke at a Veterans' Foreign Wars Hall about how close he was to the Bush and Rumsfeld cabal and how before 911 he had a briefing at the White House where they were told they were expecting something big from Afghanistan. And he also in his discussion, there were about 200 or 300 people there, it is recorded on film. And my notes are very clear on this. He also said they were following other aircraft out over the ocean. Do you have any knowledge of that? That is something that I have not heard discussed at all about 911.

DGP: No, but this comes under speculation now. And I'm telling you that we are knowledgeably speculating. Those aircraft carrying crew and passengers went over the Atlantic and that was all she wrote.

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AJ: Yeah, you remote control the original planes out, then your loaded up drones attack. And the biggest and oldest newspaper in Spain just came out, three weeks ago, and they looked at the bottom of one of those jets and there's some type of giant belly attachment. It's clearly a modified aircraft.

Wayne: Can I ask one final question?

AJ: Yes.

Wayne: That your line of discussion here, the Colonel in the past few minutes, has just opened up. You said earlier that you expected when push comes to shove that this 70% of general and field grade officers are going to say that's it. Well the enterprise that we are discussing here of taking regularly scheduled civilian airlines out and ditching them in the ocean and putting in their places aerial bombs....

AJ: Yeah, that is push coming to shove.

Wayne: That is it. Why aren't these people coming forward now'

AJ: Let me say this. We know because, folks I don't want to give too much detail out. I've talked to lawyers. I've talked to them. We know hundreds of high level officers have leaked everything we are now learning about today. So, I think that this caught a lot of people unawares. Colonel, do you want to comment on that?

DGP: Well, the only thing I can say is that let's consider that second aircraft that hit the World Trade Center. It did have a control device on the belly of the 757. That aircraft was unmanned and went in and blew up as a diversion. And something else happened. This was a sideshow.

AJ: I understand but going back to, we know they had bombs in the buildings, it's now admitted, but going back to what the caller said, your saying these elements in the military when push came to shove are going to stand up. Well, I would say that 911 was the globalists pushing. So, where's the shove? That's his question.

DGP: Well this will come. It's going to be in the form of a counter-coup d'tat. You understand that a coup d'tat was pulled on September 11th by the civilian hierarchy. [crosstalk] Say again?

Wayne: God grant that it would come soon.

DGP: Well, we, we, yes it probably will.

Wayne: They are talking about going into Syria now.

DGP: Don't believe it. There is a new ballgame there and I can't go into it right now. But Syria is going to be something else entirely involving NATO forces. And I can't go into that much right now.

AJ: Okay, thanks for the call, Wayne. Let's talk to Diane in South Carolina. Diane, go ahead.

Diane: Hi, before I asked my question. Please ask Don de Grand-Pre, Sir, to give us a phone number so we can contact him. And I have read the first book. It is awesome. It's like reading history and just watching everything unfold.

AJ: Yeah, he wrote about it in 2000 and then it happens a year later.

Diane: So, here's my question. On Thursday of last week in the Courier in South Carolina, they had a small article on the Russians who are now doing this World War III practice.

AJ: Yeah, the Russians are doing nuclear attack drills on us ' our little buddies, you know.

Diane: Okay, they had in there about a maneuverable nuclear-tipped weapon for offensive purposes.....

AJ: Yeah, they say they've got a missile that nothing can stop...

Diane: It's an airplane that goes five times the speed of sound. This was in the paper.

AJ: Well, they've had that for a while. You want to comment on that?

Diane: And my question is how is the foreign military in the United States vs. our military going to respond? And it looks like Russia is making some moves now. What do you think about Russia?

AJ: Yeah Colonel, that's a good question. I have all the articles, I have the documents they really are trying to integrate foreign and East German, Czech Republic, others into our military. How is that going?

DGP: It's probably going. I can't give you detail. You are bordering on certain elements that I can't talk about. But we have to consider the Russian aspect of these weapons as being in essence propaganda. We have the same type of unmanned aircraft drones, etc. that will fly 5 times the speed of sound.

AJ: They will do a lot more than that.

DGP: Yeah, but Diane let's not worry too much about the Russians.

Diane: Well, is there a non-gravitational type airplane or something?

AJ: No, they've got regular propulsion air. .. look, look Ma'am, they claim the SR 71 Blackbird in flight in '55, in service in '59, was the fastest jet in the world. It is not and it cruises at mach 3. Okay, I mean they got jets that will just.....

Diane: I know we are way behind what they are telling us. What I'm thinking....

AJ: Do you want to comment on that?

Diane: And ask him to give out his number for us, too.

DGP: Let me give you a home phone where you can contact me at Grand Pre Publishing Ltd. at 540-547-2996. And that's my home phone. It's a private phone and you can call me anytime.

AJ: Okay, now we know that you had a stroke a few years ago worrying about this so much. So folks, don't bug him too much. Hey, I feel like I'm going to have one everyday worrying about this.

DGP: I can handle just about anything including this 15-year old gelding that I was riding this morning.

AJ: Okay, well that's good sir. We'll be right back. We'll take more calls.

BREAK

AJ: All right folks. Here's the deal, we are going to take 5 more calls for our guest. Then let our guest go. I really appreciate him coming on. Then I'm going to cover a bunch of news that we haven't really detailed yet. It's very, very important and recap some top stories as well. Diane had asked your phone number and if you want to give it out, that's fine. Folks, if you want to talk to the Colonel, it's 540-547-2996. And before he leaves us in the next segment, we'll give you the mailing address again to get the books. Let's talk to John in Tennessee. John, you are on the air, go ahead.

John: Colonel, did a cruise missile hit the Pentagon or a Global Hawk or a drone business jet?

DGP: You are talking about what hit the Pentagon, right John? It was a cruise missile. It could have been a Global Hawk. It was not a commercial aircraft.

AJ: That's what the eye-witnesses said and the evidence shows. And do people realize that this was staged at the Pentagon? I mean obviously it's in an area that's under renovation and then all this happens. Do people at the Pentagon? are they still buying the official story, Colonel?

DGP: Well, I can't speak for the rest of them but I'm certainly not buying that. And I think I've got the full story in book 3. And that's it. It was a diversionary hit for strategic reasons and it didn't matter whether it was a pilotless drone or a Global Hawk missile. It wasn't a commercial aircraft.

AJ: It's the most surveilled area in the world but no video of it. Witnesses said they saw a small aircraft.

DGP: No, they did not. We have [garbled] a video that purports to show a firing of a launch probably from a Global Hawk or an unmanned aircraft missile but it certainly wasn't a commercial aircraft.

John: And was United Airlines Flight 93 shot down in Pennsylvania by a U.S. or NATO pilot and was that what was supposed to hit the Pentagon?

DGP: No, that was hit at 10:00 hours. It was taken out by the North Dakota Air Guard. I know the pilot who fired those two missiles to take down 93.

John: Was it shot down because the airline pilots actually regained control of the hijacked auto-pilot or was that to replace the unmanned drone that was shot down?

DGP: No, it was the aircraft, you see, had totally unconscious people on board. There were no hijackers. At 9:35, the Happy Hooligans, the Air Guard flying the F-16s were ordered to take that plane out. And they took it out from 9:35 to 10:00.

John: Were there any refueling jets involved in that operation?

AJ: Hold on a second, John. The question is why would they deviate from the plan of flying it into the Capitol? Why did the globalists decide to go ahead and shoot the plane down?

DGP: There had been an adjustment to the controls, probably by an AWACs aircraft flying overhead, again, remote control. And it was on a course for either the Capitol or the White House. And at this stage, you don't know. The Happy Hooligans came in and took care of it.

AJ: Do you think they were not following orders?

DGP: Who, the Happy Hooligans?

AJ: Well, yeah, you've got Cheney running around, we've got the stand down taking place.

DGP: Well, this is correct, but you see the Adj. General of the State of North Dakota gave the command to take it out. And, by God, they took it out. And I've got the full story in the book.

AJ: That's a good thing they did that. You said you talked to the pilot. Think about this folks. Imagine what Bush would have gotten if he would have had that plane fly into the Capitol? Imagine the police state we would be in right now.

DGP: Yes, yes, yes, indeed.

AJ: And so you had to have the diversionary blast at the Pentagon so no one would get suspicious and think it was a military coup.

DGP: Perhaps, perhaps.

AJ: John, does that answer your question?

John: Was there any refueling tankers used by the North Dakota Air Guard and what tanker wing was used?

DGP: I don't know about the aircraft itself. I don't know about refueling. They came off base in Langley and it was just a few minutes out from Langley to the intercept over Pennsylvania. It was just a matter of minutes.

AJ: Colonel, how did you get in touch with the pilot who shot the plane down?

DGP: It turned out to be an old friend of mine from the Air National Guard and this is my home state of North Dakota. And I attended the ceremony in North Dakota and watched the Adj. General [garbled] the pilot being decorated a year later for this activity that happened on 911 with Flight 93.

BREAK

AJ: Welcome back. We are about to go back to the Colonel and his amazing revelation of the North Dakota National Guard that had been moved to Langley Virginia a few months before 911. And then went in there and shot down that Flight 93 over Pennsylvania. He says he's talked to the pilot. His info checks out. I've been researching what he's been doing for years. Before we go back to our guest and 4 final calls from Scott and June and Warren and Greg, and we'll go to you quick too, because we've got a bunch of news we need to get to.

[Skipped segment]

Colonel, before we take these four final calls, go over that a little bit slower for folks. That's a big deal. You talked to the pilot, a friend of yours, who shot down Flight 93 that was going for the Capitol or the White House. And go over that for folks.

DGP: Okay, quick rundown. They were out of Hector Field, Fargo, North Dakota. A bunch, this 119 Fighter Group and they are called the Happy Hooligans. They are probably the best interceptors that we have in the country. They were moved to Langley Air Force Base from Hector Field down to Southern Virginia. And when the klaxon horn went off at 9:35, those two pilots put down their coffee and shot into their aircraft and took off. They didn't know where they were going initially but by 10:00 hours, they had rendezvoused over Southern Pennsylvania. That's about 250 miles in just a matter of minutes and engaged 93 with two side-winder missiles. And they accomplished their objective. Now Hector Field, I use to fly out of Hector Field some time ago. I know most of those pilots. I could name names. I know the National Guard Adj. General. And they were decorated about a year later and I have the full write up of that story in my book.

AJ: Yeah and it's just ignored by the media. I have that article, too. And later, well okay, it was a missile, well there wasn't "Let's Roll." It's all made-up theatre for the public and we buy it like a bunch of saps.

DGP: That is correct.

AJ: It's incredible. Let's go ahead and talk to Scott in Florida. Scott, go ahead.

Scott: Hi, how you doing?

AJ: Fine.

Scott: Earlier in the show, you mentioned that both Cheney and Wolfowitz might be in some trouble. I was wondering if they'd been serving the real rulers of the world, the thirteen families or whatever they are, and been dutifully pushing the agenda for world government....

AJ: Yeah, obviously they are just minions, [crosstalk] policy wonk puppets, so you're saying.....

Scott: If they've been doing a good job for them, why are they in danger vs. a Powell or Rice or Bush, or all they all in danger?

AJ: Or in danger of Rockefeller?

Scott: Right.

DGP: Cheney is closest to the action. He was probably most involved in all of the details of September 11th and he'll be one of the first to fall. So I predict, I predict that Cheney will be out of here inside of, well prior to the election.

Scott: Is that because he knows exactly what happened or because ...

DGP: Yes, he knows exactly what happened.

Scott: You have to eliminate all those people.

DGP: Several, yes.

AJ: Now, again...

Scott: Wouldn't that serve as a warning to anybody who would serve them in the future?

DGP: Perhaps but these guys can only understand one ingredient and that is force. And that's why it has to emanate from the military. And military force in the persona of military tribunals will takeover. And Cheney, as I reiterate, is toast.

AJ: But they are the ones who are creating the tribunals. I will say this. Gen. Rick Bacchus, over a year ago, Rhode Island native, the head of Gitmo, Guantanamo Bay, he resigned and said, "I'm not going to torture innocent people." Now that hardly got any press. We have two-star generals quitting. We have a lot of people not going along with this already.

DGP: And there will be a lot more, Alex.

AJ: Pardon me?

DGP: There will be a lot more people either resigning or retiring. And yet it's going to come out and there will be military tribunals.

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Alex Jones: All right my friends. We are already into the third and final hour of this global transmission against tyranny. And, in the last hour we had Hutton Gibson, expert on the New World Order and of course father of Mel Gibson, on talking about the different key issues. In this hour, we are joined by Andreas von Bulow and he was the federal Minister of Defense, or the equivalent of our Secretary of Defense, been in the German government since the 70s. And up until just a few years ago he was also the Minister of Technology and he has written a book that according to Reuters is the best seller in Germany that translates into '9 11 and the CIA.' And he's not the only German minister who has said we are looking at world fascism here and a powerful military industrial complex institution engineering terror attacks to scare us into submission. And, Andre von Bulow, err Andreas von Bulow, we are so honored to have a man of your stature and obvious intelligence and your courage on this show. Thank you for joining us.

Andreas von Bulow: Hello and it's wonderful speaking, yes.

AJ: Uh, we're going to break here in a few minutes and come back in a longer segment but for those who just joined us, tell us a little bit more about yourself and your book please.

AvB: Well I...I have spent over twenty-five years in politics and now I am out. And in the end I was Minister of Technology before I was Secretary of Defense. Then I had to deal in a commission on East-West transactions about the secret service of East Germany. And this was very interesting inside story because of the Western side doing deals violating the laws in Eastern Eur, err, East Germany, European Community and the United States. It was always two parts dealing with East and West and this bought me a lot of insights in the secret service business.

AJ: And in fact I remember reading about the huge investigations you did that was massive international headlines concerning the Stasi and how different governments had actually been working with these people. If you would like you are of course welcome to get into that as well. Again folks, the equivalent secretary of defense, minister of defense of Germany, and of course technology, the head of that. Just absolutely amazing. Your best selling book, and I wish there was an English translation because I would certainly buy one. My wife does read German. But please, tell us about your book.

AvB: Well I was writing another book and then 9 11 happened. And it was strange to me watching- we all were horrified what was going on and said well that's impossible, how could a crew of people manage do such horrible things? At the first hours, we didn't know who was it, then within hours it came out that probably Usama bin Laden and Al Qaeda was behind it. And then within two or three days these 19 people came out. And my objection was- my looking at it- to whom does it bring good? And I found out that it is rather damaging to the Islamic world and perhaps it might be not only be a terrorist attack but perhaps it might be a covert operation. I watched the scenery, what was going on, what the American government-

AJ: Minister, minister, we've got to break; we'll be back in three minutes. Absolutely, we'll go into this in great detail. We are honored to have you. We're talking to Andreas von Bulow. We'll be back. (Fade to bumper music)

(Commercial Break)

AJ: That's right my friends it's eight minutes ten seconds into this 3rd hour of global transmission. I am so honored to have on Andreas von Bulow former German defense minister, head of their defense department and of course until just a few years ago, head of their technology system which is, that is a very high level post, just as high level as defense minister there in Deutschland. And he's written a best selling book and I've read some quotes out of it that have been translated into English. And the title translated is '911 and the CIA.' And he lays out the evidence of the military-industrial complex carrying out the attacks. Also we have lined up Michael Micher. And he of course was the English environmental minister who resigned over Tony Blair's fraud. He has written articles saying that if they didn't carry it out, they certainly funded and allowed them to take place. So, if you've got a brain, it's clear, and Mr. von Bulow, very intelligent individual has gone over this. So, sir, you've said that on the day of the event you began to look at it, you began to research it. And, from your specific expertise in intelligence and military and technology, you know heading up entire sectors of the world's third largest economy. Please discuss for us your research and how you wrote the book and what really happened on 9 11.

AvB: Err, 9 11, I just watched the scenery. And I said there must have- gone something very [wrong]. I watched the TV for example and in the same minute that the TV showed the planes driving into the World Trade Center, you found these Palestinians dancing and laughing. And a few days later one could find out that this was fake. It was made by a TV crew of the defense ministry in Israel and they gave candies to the people and they laughed about it. And, nobody told it. And the question for me was who brought this TV stuff right in time into the national networks like CNN and CBS and so on and so on. And then we look for the, the story came out that this had been done by bin Laden and his Al-Qaeda and these 19 people of Muslim background, which did this. And you could watch the Persian journalist, and nobody showed up. Not one Arabic name was showing up there. And then one is interested to see video because all these 19 passengers must have passed the video, a lot of video cameras in Dallas, and New York, and Logan in Boston, and Portland in the North. You don't get this stuff. And then we're looking for the black boxes and we don't get them. And the story how these, these World Trade Center buildings broke down, they were constructed against an approach by airplanes. And, the firemen of New York, they were able to come to the floor where the fires were burning, and they said, the fire commander said he needed two teams, small, to fight these fires and then it's finished. So the heat, it is impossible that the heat was as high as it has been written in the papers and in all the media.
AJ: And then, and then the feds declared that all firefighter tapes malfunctioned, turns out that wasn't true; we've got copies of them. And it did say that the firefighters said the fires were out or almost out. There is video of people standing in the holes of the buildings with no fire around them. And we're going to go over the evidence that's in your book, sir, and why you came to these educated conclusions.

AvB: Yeah.
AJ: But, first I want to ask you: have you heard the new developments, the owner of the World Trade Center slipped up on TV and said that they blew Building Seven up. The forty-seven story building that wasn't even hit by an aircraft. This just broke two weeks ago, have you heard this?
AvB: Sure, I have heard this. I follow the whole scenery. Normally, it's coming out in Germany, but it's coming out in your country. It's a fascinating background to, to do research via Internet because all this stuff is broadly spread over the Internet. So it's very easy to follow, but in the main media you don't get to hear about this.

AJ: Well tell you what, later this hour, it's only three minutes of audio clips, we will air from the PBS documentary 'America Rebuilding,' where they admit they blew up WTC 7. Now, that's important because they said that building fell from fire even though it wasn't hit by a plane. And now, he slips up and says we decided to demolish it on 9-11, but then the mainstream media just ignores that. This is a public admission, sir.

AvB: Yeah, yeah especially that the CIA headquarters in New York was in, was within this building. I think the- how do you call it- the emergency center for the governor, the major, err, mayor was-

AJ: Mayor and governor.

AvB: -mayor was in this building. So, it was not hit by a plane, and the fire was very low. And the surrounding steel constructions were left over and didn't collapse. But, the Building 7 collapsed in late afternoon at 5 o' clock I think.

AJ: Well, from our internal sources, they were running the attacks sir, out of the building and so conveniently got rid of the evidence in one fell swoop.
AvB: This is one theory, it might be. It's convincing but one has to get the whole proof. But the problem is that the elements for proof are destroyed.

AJ: Also-
AvB: You will find them in Japanese cars and in ships of the American Navy.

AJ: Also, sir, we have NORAD standing down for an hour and twenty five minutes but when we had the golfer Payne Stewart went off course for fifteen minutes, he was surrounded in eighteen minutes by five F-16s so why did NORAD stand down?
AvB: Well, this is a big question because it happened in 2001 more than 60 times. That, fighter[s] went up to clear what has been done to airplanes that showed some irregularities. At 9 11, four planes for two hours were able to drive around, fly around even one hour in the direction going toward the west and then turn around and then comeback. The military air force was not able to interdict them. It's [un]imaginable. And the whole story is totally unclear what happened between the Federal Aviation Agency (Administration) and NORAD.

AJ: Absolutely, now I don't know if you've seen the associated press but the CIA was running a drill 15 miles from the World Trade Center that day of flying jets into buildings in New York and DC. My internal sources inside the Pentagon, the lawyers who represent them have said on this show that they were told to stand down because it was quote 'just a drill.' That's how you get the good military to stand down; you tell them it's just a drill. And, that drill was going on at 830 in the morning. Is that not obvious, sir?

AvB: It's quite obvious, yeah. It's quite, it's so strange and the most strange thing for me is that after two years you don't have a white book which is documenting everything. If you are looking for the timetable for example you have to make a medium between two or three or five newspapers and radio and TV announcements. So everything is unclear. On the other hand, the American government is running as the call it a world war against possibly sixty nations without really showing the background of 9/11. It's- for me, it's impossible.

AJ: Now by that they admit that nine of the nineteen hijackers, the BBC says seven but it's nine, are still alive. Bin Laden has not been convicted, bin Laden is known CIA, you've got [George H. W.] Bush meeting with the head bin Laden that morning in DC at the Ritz Carleton, you've got the General of Pakistan, the head of their intelligence, meeting with the House and Senate chairs of the intelligence committee at 8:30 that morning, his second trip in his life to the United States. You've got the FBI paying for the houses, the cars, the credit cards of the supposed hijackers. I mean, sir, you start- you've got public officials, Mayor Willie Brown, Joint Chiefs of Staff told not to fly to New York that day. That's all admitted; what do you say to that?

AvB: Well, it's all admitted. So for me, since the official version- it's not credible at all, it's totally incredible. The second solution for me is a covert operation. And this is a way to influence, to brainwash the American people into long, long, ongoing conflict with the Muslim world and all that you get to, for example the oil companies, the last oil reserves which we need for the next decades before the oil age is going out. And probably behind this is a geopolitical thinking that finally China has to be taken out. China is too big and you have to be able to- this is put down in the New American Century, which has been written by a lot of people who are now in government like Cheney, like Rumsfeld and others.

AJ: And now, sir, we've got to break. We're going to get into the Project for a New American Century and Operation Northwoods. Were you aware of a US government plan to carry out 9 11 style attacks?

AvB: You mean, Northwoods?

AJ: Yes, sir.

AvB: Yeah sure I know.

AJ: Is that not a key piece of evidence?

AvB: Well, this is a key piece, a key piece of evidence of the thinking of probably the military in dialogue with politics. Probably, I think Kennedy decided not to do it but I think it was, it was all of the-

AJ: Tell you what, stay there. We've got to break; we'll be right back folks. (Fade to music)

(Commercial Break)

AJ: All right my friends, I'm Alex Jones your host. For the rest of the hour we are honored to have Andreas von Bulow, former Defense Secretary and former head of technology, Department of Technology in Germany. And he's just gotten out of government a few years ago and he's just written a best selling book '9 11 and the CIA' and we have info on that at Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com. We will also be posting this interview on the Website in the next few days as well. There are so many facets to this- Mr. von Bulow, continuing with you waking up to what happened on 9 11 and researching it, what are some of the other key points that clearly show that it is impossible that these nineteen people did this; we know that is a fraud. It is a conspiracy theory to say that they did it alone. From your intensive research and your understanding of high-level government activities, what do you think really happened on 9 11?

AvB: Well, nobody can prove what happened 9 11 directly because it has been a covert operation and you don't find proof; you will find only indications. And one of the indications- the indication that everything is right with these nineteen people and Usama bin Laden is that the government is free to show all the prove that is on the table that is on the street that lays on the ground of the World Trade Center and so on and so on. If you have a covert operation the probability is always that the leftover pieces of proof are taken away immediately and a lot of secrecy, a band of secrecy, has taken over everything. And, this has happened with 9 11.

AJ: And that also happened- where you aware the New York Times and Chicago Tribune reported this in '93, the FBI cooked the bomb and trained the driver[s] and had an Egyptian security agent doing it for them, had two retarded Muslims, literally retarded, drive the truck and park it, let the bombing go forward. At Oklahoma City, the same company that destroyed the remnants of the World Trade Center, blew up the remnants of Oklahoma City [and] had that buried under machine gun guard at a private landfill to this day. And they hauled the rubble away from the W T C to China! They wouldn't let you take photographs. Yes, exactly.

AvB: Yeah, then at the beginning the engineers weren't allowed to go up to the steel truss [debris] and had a lot of problems- there was very scarce money. And you know, to clear up the story with Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky, the Republican majority gave out sixty million dollars, I think it's seventy now, and they started out with 600 000 dollars to try to figure out what happened on 9 11. And, they were taken away from doing research and so on and so on and they are upset. And, Fire Engineer Magazine said it was totally unbelievable what happened with this examination of 9 11.

AJ: Well, they say it was a criminal cover up and now, sir, we've turned into a police state. They can secretly arrest citizens, secretly execute us. They are building admitted prison camps all over the country, this is in our news. We're turning into something like the Soviet Union here.

AvB: Well, I can't comment on this but what's going on in Guantanamo is like that. I think the problem is that if you put people, who ever you like in Guantanamo in Cuba, you take them away for one or two years without letting a lawyer to them, without showing them what you are reprising to them, without having contact from their family- they tell in all court processes what the FBI is wanting from them-

AJ: Well, sir-

AvB: And so you get fake evidence from these kinds of people, if you behave like that.

AJ: And sir, sir. Our mainstream news says that torture is good and they say they are torturing people, that's the Washington Post. Is that a concern that our government now admits it's torturing?

AvB: Well, I'm informed- I don't know whether they are torturing, keeping them is a kind of a torture, but I am told there is an agreement with a lot of states to put these people to Egypt and other states where torture is accepted and is done and you get the final outcome of this torture and you can produce this in front of German courts and American courts and try to bring about final judgment.

AJ: Well that's it. We'll be back; long segment coming up and we'll get more into your book. We're honored to have you, Andreas von Bulow. Stay with us. (Fade)

(Commercial Break)

AJ: All right folks. We're talking with Andreas von Bulow and to make this clear, up until about two years ago he was the head minister over the Department of Technology and before that he was the head of his party's group on defense. Now, we're going to take calls coming up here in just a few minutes, your chance to talk to Andreas von Bulow and the toll free number to join us on air is 1 800 259 9231. And if you read German, speak German, you can go online just type into a search engine or go to the Website and link though and buy a copy of '9 11 and the CIA.' Now, if you want my videos, 9 11 Road to Tyranny, Masters of Terror, my book '9 11 Descent into Tyranny,' go to Infowars.com, go to PrisonPlanet.com and get them. This story is so important that I authorize you to make copies of my films for not for profit, not for sale educational purposes. I want you to get them, I want you to make copies, I want you to put them on the Internet. If you've done that, I want you to air them on local community television stations which has happened on over four hundred now. Go to Infowars.com, PrisonPlanet.com, get 9 11 Road to Tyranny, get Masters of Terror, get my book 'Descent into Tyranny,' get Paul Watson's book 'Order Out of Chaos' that I've published, they're excellent. The toll free number to order is 1 888 253 3139. Because, if we don't expose the Globalists who clearly carried the attacks out, they're going to carry out more terror. And, they are setting up this police state; the survival of America and frankly the world is at stake because if the Globalists can use our military as their arm to attack sixty-three countries, it's over. So again, that's 1 888 253 3139. The films are 25.95 a piece, twenty buck if you buy three or more, my book is twelve dollars. Again: Inforwars.com or 'net or 1 888 253 3139. Now, going back to Andreas von Bulow, sir, we were talking during the break and I said what are some of the other key points that you would like to go over. You mentioned the CIA and insider trading and the Anthrax attacks. Please discuss it.

AvB: Well, the insider trading, everybody knows that there [was] news about insider trading. I think altogether fifteen billion dollars. And, there was speculation about going down, of United Airlines and American Airlines; both airlines which were attacked by 9 11 and other things. So, normally you could find out because I think the American- the CIA together with the financial department, the Treasury, they developed this ' watching the markets to find out speculation about going on terrorist attacks. So, they could immediately find out if there were something going on- and they could find out. And, in this case, they- 9 11- the NSA people which are the guys watching via satellites the whole of the transactions going on, on Earth, they said, they told the people to destroy the tapes. They had tapes about this interior trading and they said they had to destroy them so they are not any longer proof.

AJ: Now again, interior trading that's a good term for it, insider trading. So again, insider trading or interior trading going on here and fifteen billion dollars, I think that's a low estimate. It came out the first week, Germany reported on it, France reported on it, the US, 'we're going to catch them!' Record put options against United and American; not against other airlines but specifically against these and it leads back to the CIA and suddenly they destroy the evidence. Again, again another smoking gun. Then, you get into anthrax attacks; Bush on Cipro, the most weaponized anthrax ever seen. Tell us about that.

AvB: Well, there the question just is who has the responsibility for this! You know, it overlaid the whole public debate of what was the background and reason for 9 11 for weeks because these attacks were going on for weeks and weeks and weeks. And, finally nothing came out. We have no report on who was responsible, who did it and this again is amazing. I think it belongs probably to the cover up of the psychological cover-up of the whole scenery. And then, the vice-President and the President asking Congress not to go into too much detail about the background of 9 11. What does this mean? And until now it's what the President knew before 9 11 is a total secret. I think there is no secret service around the world which gave no hints to the American secret service community, the CIA, the DIA and so on and so on. They did nothing out of it. The most disturbing thing is that these guys that knew about something in coming up 9 11, were cutout before. I mean the local level of the FBI offices, they knew quite a lot and they tried to force the central organization to go into the details about Arabs taking lessons in flight schools and so on. And, the guy who decided on top, I think the second man who was in the FBI he [said] 'no we don't do this' and he got promoted after 9 11.

AJ: By the way, the US embassies that allowed supposed Al- Qaeda back in got record cash bonuses. The FBI agents who ordered other FBI agents not to stop Al-Qaeda, they go bonuses. Bush signed W199I months before 9 11 ordering FBI not to stop Al-Qaeda. They threatened to arrest FBI Robert Wright if he tells us what he knows. I've interviewed his lawyer David Schippers who knew about the attacks beforehand. He went to Bush; Bush wouldn't talk to him, Ashcroft wouldn't talk to him. And you said something very astute, sir, you talked about the anthrax being a psychological cover-up of the scenery. That is, all these questions coming out in the early days about 9 11 got blacked out by the anthrax attacks and that's absolutely why that happened. We've tracked that back to Fort Detrick, Maryland. And they said it wasn't weaponized anthrax, it turned out it was the most weaponized ever seen.

AvB: Yeah, that's absolutely correct and the wars which were reasoned to be fights against terrorism, the war against Afghanistan to put out the Taliban it was decided long before and I think in June before 9 11. The Afghanistan government- no, the Pakistan government and the Indian government [were] told there would be an intervention in October.

AJ: Also, 44 000 US troops, 18 000 US troops were in Tajikistan and Uzbekistan, Bush had the battle launch orders on his desk two days before 9 11.

AvB: That's exact, that's exactly-

AJ: And sir, I want to digress back to torture for a minute because you have been, you've impressed by, I mean you know so much about this, you've researched it so well- On the torture issue, General Rick Baucus quit Guantanamo because he quote 'refused to torture the people there' and the CIA section chief bragged in the Washington Post that they fly them to foreign countries and then the CIA tortures them themselves so they do admit the torture.

AvB: (Pause) Sure. I can't comment on this [but] it's obvious; all the court proceedings against for example against Moussaui I think it was the 20th nominally- it was supposed in each aircraft to have five hijackers and this one was taken into prison by the FBI. I think the process was made in Alexandria, Virginia and I think the judge said that if you don't give the proof [of] these guys who are running Al- Qaeda and give these people for cross-examination then I can deliver a judgment. The same is true in Germany; we have people who are related to Al-Qaeda-and probably Al-Qaeda is an artificial, err, [de]nomination of-

AJ: CIA fiction.

AvB:- a ruse of elements of Islamic people. In Hamburg, the trials are failing because the American government is not delivering the proof.

AJ: Absolutely and look, we've had military officers and many others on, it is clear that Al Qaeda is a CIA creation. A foggy boogie man so the military-industrial complex can carry out attacks and then pin it on them and I mean we know when bin Laden blows up a building supposedly, our government pays his family to rebuild it.

AvB: Yeah.

AJ: I mean there's the payoff right out in the open.

AvB: Yeah, the whole background of- the whole personalities like bin Laden, like Al Qaeda, like Taliban, even Saddam Hussein, these are all figures that were handled by the CIA in former times. So probably they are recycled in the system now as bad guys. Before, they were the good guys taking away the Russians out of Afghanistan and dealing with this, getting money for this, getting paid for this now they are used as bad guys. Usama bin Laden has been, in '95, in the Balkans in an operation the Americans were with the UKG in Albania. You find these guys all over; you find these guys in Chechnya for example. There are also 'former Afghanis' as they are called and they are [driven] in loaded planes of the CIA for example.

AJ: Absolutely so they provide the crisis so Big Brother could provide the police state solution. Andreas von Bulow it is clear that if we do not expose at least who stands to gain from this terror and who was involved in it, that is the large financial interests that own our government, they are going to be able to use America as the engine of quote imperial mobilization and world domination. As Zbigniew
Brzezinski and the PNAC documents said, how important is it to expose this for the future of free humanity?

AvB: I think it's, for everybody outside of the United States it's extremely important because it's a question of whether democracy will survive and whether the state of law is kept up or we'll be driven by public relations and financial interest. And I think the main thing for the Americans is who pays for all this. Because, if the oil companies get more cheap oil and make their money out of it, the American taxpayer has to pay for the military machine. The oil companies aren't paying for that. It's not the military-industrial complex paying for that, it is the American taxpayer so it's extremely important.

AJ: Absolutely and now we are paying record amounts for fuel for petrol in this country while they have record supplies and the oil companies are posting record profits. I want to get into W T C 7 because I want people to hear these clips. These are from the PBS documentary, and this will just take a minute sir, and then I want to get your comment on it, where they describe how Building 7 fell and how they removed it first because quote 'nobody died in it.' It's the owner, Larry Silverstein who pulled it, gave the order to demolish it on the afternoon of September 11th, so, Mark, go ahead and hit that clip for us please.

PBS Documentary (narrator): World Trade Center 7 had always been considered the starting point for rebuilding. Located north of the slurry wall, Building 7 had been cleared faster than the rest of the site. There had been no bodies to recover. Pelted by debris when the North Tower collapsed, Seven burned into the late afternoon allowing occupants to evacuate to safety.

PBS Documentary (Silverstein): I remember getting a call from the, err, Fire Department commander telling me that they were not sure they would be able to contain the fire. I thought we had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do was, was pull it, and they made the decision to pull and we watched the building collapse.

AJ: We made the decision to pull, and we watched the building collapse. Now here's Dan Rather, seconds after it collapses and this is what Dan Rather had to say and then we'll get von Bulow's comment.

(Voice of Dan Rather): What you are seeing are high shots, now here we're going to show you a videotape of the collapse itself. Now we go to videotape of the collapse of this building. (Associate- 'it's amazing') Amazing, incredible, pick your word. For the third time today, it's reminiscent of those pictures we've all seen too much on television before when a building was destroyed by well-placed dynamite to knock it down.

AJ: Now, again, the seismographs show multiple explosions, the firefighters were told to get back. Von Bulow, how important is this piece of evidence?

AvB: The explosions, well the government has to explain it! They have to prove their case. They have to this conspiracy theory that these nineteen Muslims under the direction of Usama bin Laden. It's not my business; it's only 'if there are explosions, if it's true, can it be that the heat out of kerosene is able to destroy these huge buildings in a manner that they are collapsing in a'

AJ: Symmetrical.

AvB: 'free-fall in a very short- in a few seconds, that they broke together. It's nearly impossible. So everything that is on the table is telling that the government story is not true. And there must be another story and it must be explosions and the spikes in geological institutions in five states, 2.2 on the Richter scale, you have to find out what's the background. And five or seven days later the temperature on the ground was five hundred degrees, or a little bit more than 450, if just fires were-

AJ: We've got to break. We'll be right back.

(Commercial Break)

AJ: We're talking with Andreas von Bulow. Former minister at the highest levels of the German government. Former Technology Minister. And I know we have a lot of callers but we only have time to take maybe one or two, Dan in Oklahoma. I just want to commend Andreas von Bulow for writing this book 9 11 and the CIA and I would hope a publisher would get a hold of it and translate it and publish it here because I would definitely carry it. You can find information on the book for those who read and speak German at Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com. Andreas von Bulow let's take a call, let's talk to Dan in Oklahoma. Dan, you're on the air go ahead.

Dan: Yes, thanks Alex. Mr. von Bulow my question is following this disaster of 9 1 1, I understand Germany, France, and Russia and why they didn't want to get involved because of the money they had invested with Iraq. With the military-industrial complex like it is, what do you understand the New World Order to be especially since they said they could us this event to-

AJ: Yes, who are, who are the forces behind government-sponsored terror?

AvB: Who are the forces behind government? I do not understand this.

AJ: Well we know this global government is forming. We know that powerful financial interests are engineering terror attacks, who are the forces behind the military industrial complex?

AvB: Well, it's always interesting. If you look at who owns the munitions factory in the East-West conflict or the Near-East conflict, they are always trying to sell their material to both sides. And, they are always interested in conflict and they would like after the breakdown of the Soviet Union, the noble thing would be to cut down this military-industrial complex, which costs the American taxpayer a huge amount of money. Exactly the same time the Soviet Union breaks down, this new terror thing comes up. The first terrorist attacks were I think the World Trade Center one and you find out the leading guy of this bombing, this time an agricultural bomb, he was going immediately to FBI and saying 'I'll tell you everything about this' and they agreed finally twenty-four hours before the attack in 1993, they would change the powder, the dangerous powder against the [non] dangerous powder and the FBI didn't come up to do this so-

AJ: Yeah, they cooked the bomb and trained the drivers and that's another patsy.

AvB:-people were [injured] and six people were dead. In Oklahoma you had nearly the same thing. You had two attacks. One was perhaps McViegh and this other guy but there was another attack much more strong than this agricultural bomb and there is an American general, an Air Force general who for I think ten years or fifteen years in charge of this explosive institute and he said never could this agrarian bomb bring about such damage. There must be something else and they found that within the building there were demolition charges.

AJ: Absolutely, Dan thanks for the call. I hope we can get you on in the future again, Andreas von Bulow, you've been so kind. You have such amazing courage to stand up and tell the truth and we've been honored to have you on the show from Germany. God bless you.

AvB: Thank you.

AJ: Thank you very much and have a good evening.

Alex Jones Show - March 4 2002

2011-08-25T00:09:35Z

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AJ: This is earth shattering. Can you break it down for us and tell us what the economists have done?

GP: Well, I'll tell you two things. One, I spoke to the former chief economist, Joe Stiglitz who was fired by the (World) Bank. So I, on BBC and with Guardian, basically spent some time debriefing him. It was like one of the scenes out of Mission Impossible, you know where the guy comes over from the other side and you spend hours debriefing him. So I got the insight of what was happening at the World Bank. In addition, he did not brief me but I got some other sources. He would not give me inside documents but other people handed me a giant stash of secret documents from the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund.

AJ: So to insulate himself, somebody else did it.

GP: No, I'm telling you. He wouldn't touch it but I really did get from completely independent sources a big stack of documents.

AJ: Just like you got W199I, from the same folks we got it from.

GP: And so one of the things that is happening is that, in fact, I was supposed to be on CNN with the head of the World Bank Jim Wolfensen and he said he would not appear on CNN ever if they put me on. And so CNN did the craziest thing and pulled me off.

AJ: So now they are threatening total boycott.

GP: Yea right. So what we found was this. We found inside these documents that basically they required nations to sign secret agreements, in which they agreed to sell off their key assets, in which they agreed to take economic steps which are really devastating to the nations involved and if they didn't agree to these steps, there was an average for each nation that signed one-hundred and eleven items that they are required to sign on to. If they didn't follow those steps they would be cut-off from all international borrowing. You can't borrow any money in the international marketplace. No one can survive without borrowing, whether you are people or corporations or countries - without borrowing some money and having some credit and ...

AJ: Because of the debt inflation pit they've created.

GP: Yea, well, see one of the things that happened is that - we've got examples from, I've got inside documents recently from Argentina, the secret Argentine plan. This is signed by Jim Wolfensen, the president of the World Bank. By the way, just so you know, they are really upset with me that I've got the documents, but they have not challenged the authenticity of the documents. First, they did. First they said those documents don't exist. I actually showed them on television. And cite some on the web, I actually have copies of some...

AJ: Greg Palast dot com?

GP: Yea, gregpalast.com. So then they backed off and said yea those documents are authentic but we are not going to discuss them with you and we are going to keep you off the air anyway. So, that's that. But what they were saying is look, you take a country like Argentina, which is, you know, in flames now. And it has had five presidents in five weeks because their economy is completely destroyed.

AJ: Isn't it six now?

GP: Yea, it's like the weekly president because they can't hold the nation together. And this happened because they started out in the end of the 80s with orders from the IMF and World Bank to sell-off all their assets, public assets. I mean, things we wouldn't think of doing in the US, like selling off their water system.

AJ: So they tax the people. They create big government and big government hands it off to the private IMF/World Bank. And when we get back, I want to get to the four-parts that you elegantly lay out here where they actually pay off the politicians billions to their Swiss bank accounts to do this transfer.

GP: That's right.

AJ: This is like one of the biggest stories ever, Sir. I'm sorry, please continue.

GP: So what's happening is - this is just one of them. And by the way, it's not just anyone who gets a piece of the action. The water system of Buenos Aires was sold off for a song to a company called Enron. A pipeline was sold off, that runs between Argentina and Chile, was sold off to a company called Enron.

AJ: And then the globalists blow out the Enron after transferring the assets to another dummy corporation and then they just roll the theft items off.

GP: You've got it. And by the way, you know why they moved the pipeline to Enron is that they got a call from somebody named George W. Bush in 1988.

AJ: Unbelievable, Sir. Stay right there. We are talking to Greg Palast.

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AJ: We are talking to Greg Palast. He is an award-winning journalist, an American who has worked for the BBC, London Guardian, you name it, who has dropped just a massive bomb-shell on the Globalists and their criminal activity. There is no other word for it. You link through at inforwars.com, you can link to his web site - gregpalast.com, or any of the other great reports he has been putting out. He now has the secret documents. We have seen the activity of the IMF/World Bank for years. They come in, pay off politicians to transfer the water systems, the railways, the telephone companies, the nationalized oil companies, gas stations - they then hand it over to them for nothing. The Globalists pay them off individually, billions a piece in Swiss bank accounts. And the plan is total slavery for the entire population. Of course, Enron, as we told you was a dummy corporation for money laundering, drug money, you name it, from the other reporters we have had on. It's just incredibly massive and hard to believe. But it is actually happening. Greg Palast has now broken the story world-wide. He has actually interviewed the former top World Bank economist. Continuing Sir with all these points. I mean for the average person out there, in a nutshell, what is the system you are exposing?

GP: We are exposing that they are systematically tearing nations apart, whether it's Ecuador or Argentina. The problem is some of these bad ideas are drifting back into the U.S. In other words, they have run out of places to bleed. And the problem is, this is the chief economist, this is not some minor guy. By the way, a couple of months ago, after he was fired, he was given the Nobel Prize in Economics. So he is no fool. He told me, he went into countries where they were talking about privatizing and selling off these assets. And basically, they knew, they literally knew and turned the other way when it was understood that leaders of these countries and the chief ministers would salt away hundreds of millions of dollars.

AJ: But it's not even privatization. They just steal it from the people and hand it over to the IMF/World Bank.

GP: They hand it over, generally to the cronies, like Citibank was very big and grabbed half the Argentine banks. You've got British Petroleum grabbing pipelines in Ecuador. I mentioned Enron grabbing water systems all over the place. And the problem is that they are destroying these systems as well. You can't even get drinking water in Buenos Aires. I mean it is not just a question of the theft. You can't turn on the tap. It is more than someone getting rich at the public expense.

AJ: And the IMF just got handed the Great Lakes. They have the sole control over the water supply now. That's been in the Chicago Tribune.

GP: Well the problem that we have is - look, the IMF and the World Bank is 51% owned by the United States Treasury. So the question becomes, what are we getting for the money that we put into there? And it looks like we are getting mayhem in several nations. Indonesia is in flames. He was telling me, the Chief Economist, Stiglitz, was telling me that he started questioning what was happening. You know, everywhere we go, every country we end up meddling in, we destroy their economy and they end up in flames. And he was saying that he questioned this and he got fired for it. But he was saying that they even kind of plan in the riots. They know that when they squeeze a country and destroy its economy, you are going to get riots in the streets. And they say, well that's the IMF riot. In other words, because you have riot, you lose. All the capital runs away from your country and that gives the opportunity for the IMF to then add more conditions.

AJ: And that makes them even more desperate. So it is really an imperial economy war to implode countries and now they are doing it here with Enron. They are getting so greedy - they are preparing it for this country.

GP: I've just been talking to, out in California just yesterday, from here in Paris, the chief investigators of Enron for the State of California. They are telling me some of the games these guys are playing. No one is watching that. It's not just the stockholders that got ripped off. They sucked millions, billions of dollars out of the public pocket in Texas and California in particular.

AJ: Where are the assets? See, everybody says there are no assets left since Enron was a dummy corporation - from the experts I've had on and they transferred all those assets to other corporations and banks.

GP: Well yea, this stuff has really gone just like a three-card Monty game. I mean remember that there is money at the bottom. You did pay California's electric bills according to the investigations, they are telling me that they were pumped up unnecessarily by 9 to 12-billion dollars. And I don't know who they are going to get it back from now.

AJ: Well they actually caught the Governor buying it for $137 per megawatt and selling it back to Enron for $1 per megawatt and doing it over and over and over again.

GP: Yea, the system has gotten completely out of control and these guys knew exactly what was happening. Well, you have to understand that some of the guys who designed the system in California for deregulation then went to work for Enron right after. In fact, here I'm in London right now and we have, the British has some responsibility here. The guy who was on the audit committee of Enron, Lord Wakeham. And this guy is a real piece of work, there isn't a conflict of interest that he hasn't been involved in.

AJ: And he is the head of NM Rothschild.

GP: There isn't anything that he doesn't have his fingers in. He's on something like fifty Boards. And one of the problems, he was supposed to be head of the audit committee watching how Enron kept the books. And in fact, they were paying him consulting fees on the side. He was in Margaret Thatcher's government and he's the one who authorized Enron to come into Britain and take over power plants here in Britain. And they owned a water system in the middle of England. This is what this guy approved and then they gave him a job on the board. And on top of being on the board, they gave him a huge consulting contract. So you know, this guy was supposed to be in charge of the audit committee to see how they were handling their accounts.

AJ: Well, he is also the head of the board to regulate the media.

GP: Yes, he is, because I have run into real problems, because he regulates me.

AJ: They are also trying to pass laws in England where you've got an 800-year old well, or in some cases a 2000-year old well that the Romans built that's on your property and they say we are putting a meter on it. You can't have your own water.

GP: Yea, and that's Lord Wakeham. I mean this is the guy from Enron. He is a real piece of work. He can't be touched here because like I say he actually regulates the media. So if you complain, he's got his hand on your pen.

AJ: Burrow into NM Rothschild, you'll find it all there. Go through these four points. I mean you've got the documents. The IMF/World Bank implosion, four points, how they bring down a country and destroy the resources of the people.

GP: Right. First you open up the capital markets. That is, you sell off your local banks to foreign banks. Then you go to what's called market-based pricing. That's the stuff like in California where everything is free market and you end up with water bills - we can't even imagine selling off water companies in the United States of America. But imagine if a private company like Enron owned your water. So then the prices go through the roof. Then open up your borders to trade - complete free marketeering. And Stiglitz who was the chief economist, remember he was running this system, he was their numbers man and he was saying it was like the opium wars. He said this isn't free trade; this is coercion trade. This is war. They are taking apart economies through this.

AJ: Well look, China has a 40% tariff on us, we have a 2% on them. That's not free and fair trade. It's to force all industry to a country that the globalists fully control.

GP: Well, you know Walmart - I did a story, in fact, if you read my book. Let me just mention that I've got a book out, "The Best Democracy Money Can Buy" about how, unfortunately, America has been put up for sale. "The Best Democracy Money Can Buy" is coming out this week. But I have a story in there about how Walmart has 700 plants in China. There is almost nothing in a Walmart store that comes from the United States of America, despite all the eagles on the wall.

AJ: Exactly, like 1984, then they have big flags saying "Buy American" and there's hardly anything --- it's Orwellian double-think.

GP: What's even worst is they will hire a factory and right next to it will be the sister factory which is inside a prison. You can imagine the conditions of these workers producing this lovely stuff for Walmart. It's really....

AJ: And if an elitist needs a liver, they just call.

GP: (Laughs) I know, it's grim. In fact, I talked to a guy, Harry Wu, is his name and, in fact, he broke into, he's been in Chinese prison for 19 years. No one believed his horrible stories. He actually broke back into prison, took a camera with him and took pictures of the conditions and said this is the conditions of factories where Walmart is getting its stuff made at, it's all....

AJ: I was threatened to be thrown off TV here in Austin when I aired video of little girls 4-years old chained down, skinnier than Jews in concentration camps, to die. And I was threatened, if you ever air that again, you will be arrested.

GP: Well you know, it is horrifying stuff that, unfortunately, I have been handed and Stiglitz, was very courageous for him to come out and make these statements. Like I said, he didn't provide me the documents. The documents really sealed it because it said this is what really happened. They really do say sign on the dotted line agreeing to 111 conditions for each nation. And the public has no say; they don't know what the hell is happening to them. All they know....

AJ: Go back into privatization. Go through these four points. That's the key. It sends billions to politicians to hand everything over.

GP: Yea, he called it briberization, which is you sell off the water company and that's worth, over ten years, let's say that that's worth about 5 billion bucks, ten percent of that is 500 million, you can figure out how it works. I actually spoke to a Senator from Argentina two weeks ago. I got him on camera. He said that after he got a call from George W. Bush in 1988 saying give the gas pipeline in Argentina to Enron, that's our current president. He said that what he found was really creepy was that Enron was going to pay one-fifth of the world's price for their gas and he said how can you make such an offer? And he was told, not by George W. but by a partner in the deal, well if we only pay one-fifth that leaves quit a little bit for you to go in your Swiss bank account. And that's how it's done.

AJ: This is the ....

GP: I've got the film. This guy is very conservative. He knows the Bush family very well. And he was public works administrator in Argentina and he said, yea, I got this call. I asked him, I said, from George W. Bush. He said, yea, November 1988, the guy called him up and said give a pipeline to Enron. Now this is the same George W. Bush who said he didn't get to know Ken Lay until 1994. So, you know.....

AJ: So now they are having these white-wash hearings. You know I was at Enron yesterday in Houston because I'm now here in Austin. We were like 30-feet from the door, right on the sidewalk and I have it on video - goons came up and said you can't videotape. I said go ahead and have me arrested. I mean I'm talking on the sidewalk, Greg.

GP: Well, you know, I was there in May, telling people in Britain you've never heard of Enron, but ... And these are the guys who have figured out how to (garbled) this government. In fact, we saw some interesting documents, a month before Bush took office, Bill Clinton, I think to get even with Bush's big donor, cut Enron out of the California power market. He put a cap on the prices they could charge. They couldn't charge more than one-hundred times the normal price for electricity. That upset Enron. So Ken Lay personally wrote a note to Dick Cheney saying get rid of Clinton's cap on prices. Within 48 hours of George W. Bush taking office, his energy department reversed the clamps on Enron. OK, how much is that worth for those guys. You know that has got to be worth, that paid off in a week all the donations.

AJ: Listen at the bombs you are dropping. You are interviewing these ministers, former head of IMF/World Bank economist - all of this, you've got the documents, paying people's Swiss Bank accounts, all this happening. Then you've got Part 2, what do they do after they start imploding?

GP: Well, then they tell you to start cutting your budgets. A fifth of the population of Argentina is unemployed, and they said cut the unemployment benefits drastically, take away pension funds, cut the education budgets, I mean horrible things. Now if you cut the economy in the middle of a recession that was created by these guys, you are really going to absolutely demolish this nation. After we were attacked on September 11, Bush ran out and said we got to spend $50 to $100 billion dollars to save our economy. We don't start cutting the budget, you start trying to save this economy. But they tell these countries you've got to cut, and cut, and cut. And why, according to the inside documents, it's so you can make payments to foreign banks - the foreign banks are collecting 21% to 70% interest. This is loan-sharking. If fact, it was so bad that they required Argentina to get rid of the laws against loan-sharking. because any bank would be a loan-shark under Argentine law.

AJ: But Greg, you said it yourself and the documents show it. They first implode the economy to create that atmosphere. They institute the entire climate that does this.

GP: Yea, and then they say, well gee, we can't lend you any money except at these loan-shark rates. We don't allow people to charge 75% interest in the United States. That's loan-sharking.

AJ: Part 3 and Part 4. What do they do after they do that?

GP: Like I said, you open up the borders for trade, that's the new opium wars. And once you have destroyed an economy that can't produce anything, one of the terrible things is that they are forcing nations to pay horrendous amounts for things like drugs - legal drugs. And by the way, that's how you end up with an illegal drug trade, what's there left to survive on except sell us smack and crack and that's how...

AJ: And the same CIA national security dictatorship has been caught shipping that in.

GP: You know, we are just helping our allies.

AJ: This is just amazing. And so, drive the whole world down, blow out their economies and then buy the rest of it up for pennies on the dollar. What's Part 4 of the IMF/World Bank Plan?

GP: Well, in Part 4, you end up again with the taking apart of the government. And by the way, the real Part 4 is the coup d'etat. That's what they are not telling you. And I'm just finding that out in Venezuela. I just got a call from the President of Venezuela.

AJ: And they install their own corporate government.

GP: What they said was here you've got an elected president of the government and the IMF has announced, listen to this, that they would support a transition government if the president were removed. They are not saying that they are going to get involved in politics - they would just support a transition government. What that effectively is is saying we will pay for the coup d'etat, if the military overthrows the current president, because the current president of Venezuela has said no to the IMF. He told those guys to go packing. They brought their teams in and said you have to do this and that. And he said, I don't have to do nothing. He said what I'm going to do is, I'm going to double the taxes on oil corporations because we have a whole lot of oil in Venezuela. And I'm going to double the taxes on oil corporations and then I will have all the money I need for social programs and the government - and we will be a very rich nation. Well, as soon as they did that, they started fomenting trouble with the military and I'm telling you watch this space: the President of Venezuela will be out of office in three months or shot dead. They are not going to allow him to raise taxes on the oil companies.

AJ: Greg Palast, here is the problem. You said it when you first came out of the gates. They are getting hungry, they are doing it to the United States now. Enron, from all the evidence that I've seen was a front, another shill, they would steal assets and then transfer it to other older global companies, then they blew that out and stole the pension funds. Now they are telling us that terrorism is coming any day. It's going to happen if you don't give your rights up. Bush did not involve Congress and the others who are supposed to be in the accession if there is a nuclear attack in the secret government, Washington Post -"Congress Not Advised of Shadow Government." We have the Speaker of the House not being told. This looks like coup d'etat here. I'm going to come right out with it. We had better spread the word on this now or these greedy creatures are going to go all the way.

GP: I'm very sad about one thing. I report this story in the main stream press of Britian. I'm on the BBC despite Lord Wakeham. I know he doesn't like me there. I'm in the BBC, I'm in the main daily paper, which is the equivalent of the New York Times or whatever, and we do get the information out. And I'm just very sorry that we have to have an alternative press, an alternative radio network and everything else to get out the information that makes any sense. I mean this information should be available to every American. I mean, after all, it's our government.

Alex Jones Show - May 1 2002

2011-08-25T00:01:57Z

Admin: moved Alex Jones Show - May 1 2002 to Alex Jones Show - 2002-05-01

by [[by::Alex Jones]]

Interview of Michael Springman,
Former Consulate officer in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia
Where 15 of the 19 Terrorist Hijackers Obtained Visas
Alex Jones Radio Show
May 1, 2002
Partial Transcript

AJ: I’m reading from a transcript from the BBC Newsnight report with out good friend, Greg Palast. Let me just read two paragraphs from this then we will go to our guest.

“PALAST: Newsnight has uncovered a long history of shadowy connections between the State Department, the CIA and the Saudis. The former head of the American visa bureau in Jeddah is Michael Springman.
MICHAEL SPRINGMAN: In Saudi Arabia I was repeatedly ordered by high level State Dept officials to issue visas to unqualified applicants. These were, essentially, people who had no ties either to Saudi Arabia or to their own country. I complained bitterly at the time there. I returned to the US, I complained to the State Dept here, to the General Accounting Office, to the Bureau of Diplomatic Security and to the Inspector General's office. I was met with silence.
PALAST: By now, Bush Sr, once CIA director, was in the White House. Springman was shocked to find this wasn't visa fraud. Rather, State and CIA were playing "the Great Game". “

Joining us for this newsmaker interview this evening is Michael Springman. Michael, thank you so much for joining us this evening. Great to have you on the show, Michael.

MS: Thank you.

AJ: Give us a little more about your bio about yourself and then break this incredible story down for us.

MS: Okay. Basically, I’ve worked for the federal government for slightly more than 20 years. First, with the Commerce Department International Foreign Trade Administration and then with the Dept. of State. I’d been a Consulate officer in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, a commercial attaché in New Deli, India. And on two separate occasions in Stuttgart, Germany, I had been an economic commercial officer and a political economic officer. My last assignment at the Dept. of State was as an economical analyst in the Bureau of Intelligence and Research. I dealt with essentially all of Latin America south of the Rio Grande and the Caribbean.

AJ: Impressive bio and on infowars.com, we have one of the CBC radio interviews that you have done, the (BBC) Newsnight TV interview there for folks to view. And I’m glad we’ve got you here on this long-form radio show so you can really tell the story and how it’s developed, hopefully, in its entirety. Again we are talking to Michael Springman. How do you get involved in all of this? What really happened? How is it interconnected? Then, of course, what has happened since you started blowing the whistle?

MS: Okay, I’ll try and give you the condensed version since this has been running for about ten or fifteen years now. I had been assigned to the Consulate at Jeddah and the first thing you have to remember is that the Consulate there is essentially a CIA operation of some 15 to 20 Washington-based Americans. There were only three people, including myself, whom I’m certain had no ties to either, any of the American intelligence services, either professional or familial.

I had gotten some strange questions before I went out to Jeddah from the then ambassador, Walter Cutler, who kept talking about visa problems. And how I should do my best to make sure that everything ran smoothly. Once I got there, I found I was being ordered to issue visas to, as I said in the article, and as you mentioned earlier, to people who really should not have gotten a visa. I’ll give you just one example. There were two Pakistanis who wanted to go to an American tradeshow in the United States. They claimed they were going with a Commerce Department-sponsored trade mission. These guys couldn’t name the tradeshow and they couldn’t name the city in which it was being held. When I refused the visa, after a couple minutes of questioning, I got an almost immediate call from a CIA case officer, hidden in the Commercial section, that I should reverse myself and grant these guys a visa. I told him no. Not long afterwards, he went to the Chief of the Consular section and got my decision reversed. And, essentially, in the State Dept., the guy doing the interviewing has the first, last and usually the only word regarding visa issuances. He can be reversed if it was done not according to regulation, for example. If somebody comes up with additional information, that’s material, you can push for a change in the petition. But this was one of a pattern.

There was a guy there who I had refused repeatedly from the Sudan. But there were national security reasons to give him a visa. Nobody ever explained to me what they were. A Filipino electrician got his daughter’s student visas in the United States to go to high school here but he had been helpful to his Consulate. And if you went on, you know, week after week after week, and they got more brazen and blatant about it. And I was told on occasion, well you know if you want a job in the State Dept. in the future, you will change your mind. And other people would simply say, you can change your mind now or wait until the Consul General reverses you.

I learned later, once I got back to the states, from talking to a journalist, a guy with the local university and a fellow who was retired from the U.S. government, that what I was doing was not complaining about visa fraud, as you had mentioned earlier. It was basically the CIA that had Osama bin Laden recruiting people for the Afghan war and taking them to the U.S. for terrorist training.

AJ: And now we find out, because of Zbigniew Brzezinski in his book, “The Grand Chessboard,” national security advisor for Jimmy Carter and a founding member of the Trilateral Commission, that they actually staged that whole war and got the Afghans to attack the Soviets, to then set up this entire nest and take control of the oil and the other little goodies that grow on top of poppies there. I can’t believe how much these guys are bragging out in the open. I guess they just think we are all totally stupid and they are just going to get away with it.

MS: Well, the American people don’t get the full story. The mainstream press doesn’t want to hear any of this stuff. And it seems to go from bad to worse. I thought that by raising hell and eventually losing my job over making the agency look bad, that all of this had stopped. But fifteen of the nineteen people who had gotten visas, who allegedly were responsible for flying airplanes into the Pentagon and the World Trade Towers, they came from Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, and got visas at the Consulate there. And ....

AJ: That’s an important point. Folks, I want you to wake up right now, put the Budweiser down, can you repeat that, one more time, for them, please sir?

MS: Sure. According to the Los Angeles Times, fifteen of the nineteen people, the Saudis who were allegedly responsible for flying planes into the World Trade Towers and the Pentagon, they got their visas from the Consulate at Jeddah. Now, according to a journalist I know in Florida, this was done through a new wrinkle in the visa procedures there. At the time I was running the visa section, I personally interviewed at least one member of the family or just about everyone who wanted to travel to the States. They had switched things so that the visas would be submitted, in many instances, through travel agencies, that were approved by the Consulate. And, according to a conversation that I had had with Celerino Castillo, some years ago, on an article I was researching, it was old agency ploy to put passports of his people in with legitimate trade groups or travel groups coming from travel agencies and send them to the Consular section.

AJ: Couldn’t somebody, if it’s just a name at a travel desk or a travel agency, just show up with a fake ID and then board?

MS: Yeah, you could do that. The way it was explained to me is that they would go to the travel agency and say I want to go to the United States - either get me a visa, I have to visit relatives there, I have business there, etc. And they would simply send a package of passports and visa applications over to the Consular’s section. And because they came from a reputable source, people didn’t look too closely at it, I guess.

AJ: Well, Bush is telling us to give up our liberty for security and we’ll be safe. Meanwhile, leaving the borders wide open and doing all this. And of course, in your interview with the BBC, it all ties back, as well, we really see an acceleration of all this, if I’m going by the transcript correctly, accurately, it all really accelerates with Poppy Bush, Sr., former CIA Director, when he was vice president and president?

MS: Well, yeah, you could say that. I know that when I was in Jeddah, it got to the point where the CIA Base Chief demanded to examine all visa applications that I had approved before I would be allowed to issue the visas. Which I thought was really reaching for it. I had talked to a couple of people in the business, a former CIA case officer, who seemed to think it was kind of a local option as to whether the agency wanted to get that deeply involved in visa issuances. And I talked to a retired Consular officer who said he had been in various posts, and they weren’t quite as blatant about it as they were at Jeddah, but when he was in (garbled), for example, the Station Chief would come over and ask to troll his visa application files, looking for interesting people.

AJ: Amazing, so again, the media would like us to forget that bin Laden was this big hero back during the 80s. In fact, I did a Lexis-Nexis search at the library. This guy, I got dozens of mainstream reports, New York Times, Washington Post, LA Times, AP, where he’s this little hero from this great freedom fighter family in Saudi Arabia, over there fighting the evil Soviets and then now the media says, no connection, the government never knew bin Laden. But according to the evidence I’ve seen, I’ve read an article from the foreign press and it’s even been in our news, we have bin Laden in July for ten days with the CIA Section Chief, there at the American hospital.

MS: I had heard that from another guy. There must be something to it.

AJ: Well, it was in the Washington Times, Wall Street Journal, first broken in La Figuro over in France, BBC. Go to infowars.com, in the government prior knowledge section and wade through several hundred articles and there’s a bunch of them in a subsection there. Continuing with this relationship. This was long before, what years was this? You had gotten back, you had gotten out of it and that chain of events, and then you are talking to former government people and journalists there in DC and New York area, and they are saying, on yeah that’s bin Laden’s people you were being told to give the visas to, it wasn’t just a visa fraud issue.

MS: Oh yeah, I was in Jedi between 1987 and 1989. And there, in fact, was a CIA case officer assigned part-time to the Consular section. He would sit at the visa window with me sometimes. He’d say, hey Mike, let me take this next guy in line, he’s one of my people, I want to deal with him.

AJ: Really.

MS: Yeah.

AJ: And so when you get back to the states, I mean, how did your career progress? When did you finally get back and talk to the folks and find all of this out?

MS: Well I found it out after State had terminated my appointment. In fact, I had filed a series of Freedom of Information Act requests to find out exactly why State terminated me. I was never given any real reason other than the basic, bureaucratic business about well you just simply don’t measure up, fella.

AJ: So, they tell you in no uncertain terms, hey buddy, grease the skids, we want an open spigot on whoever we want coming through here to the U.S. out of Saudi Arabia, with our good little buddies over there - terror-funding central. And, again correct me if any of this is not accurate. And then you don’t play ball and then they kick you out. You get back to the U.S., when did you start asking questions and finding more out from these individuals you mentioned earlier.

MS: It started, I guess, after I was out of the State Department in ’91 and I guess in ’92 and ’93, I started hearing from the journalists and from the two guys who knew more about what was going on there than I did.

AJ: And, in more detail, what did these individuals in the government positions, what did they tell you?

MS: Well, they pretty much said, flat out, that the agency was bringing these people over for terrorist training. And that they wanted junior officers in the visa section with little or no supervision so that these people would sail on through. Or, if they did question them and did try to go by the Immigration and Nationality Act and the State Department’s own regulations, they could be bounced out if it would appease these guys or (if they were) not with the program, they don’t understand about the Foreign Service, they’re not cooperative, they are not diplomatic, etc. And, as I told people, okay so these guys were wrong. I misinterpreted what they were saying, why has State Department stonewalled me in my request for information all these years? And what was the real reason these guys got visas? Because if there is anything that the State Department fears, truly is that someone gets a visa that shouldn’t get one. There are afraid of visa fraud, afraid of under the table payments. They periodically yank local staff and Foreign Service officers out and prosecute them for doing things like this.

Alex Jones Show - November 21 2002

2011-08-25T00:00:14Z

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AJ: Now yesterday I read a news article, on air, part of it, seven pages from World Net Daily it's on infowars.com we've had him on before. Home School Legal Defense Association. And Chris Klicka is the head of this organization I've had him on in the past, they're doing a wonderful job. I first had him on a few months ago talking about California just said, "Well home schooling is illegal unless you got a teaching certificate". Well that's not true, but it's just color of law. They say "show up to the pre-trial hearing". There's no subpoena, no indictment, no charges. And then it's a contract law, it's the only real form of law... Commerce Law. And they're operating out of this It's maritime jurisdiction they're now admitting it. They just call you in and try to get you to forfeit your children, sign over the agreements, they want CPS to visit the home. They're doing this now in Illinois, Texas, many other areas. This case though is a substitute teacher who raises her daughter. She has the certificate in Illinois, which you don't even need. CPS came and demanded into her house, then later squad cars came. And they're talking about charges. And they said "Show up at our pre-trial hearing without charges." It's all color of law. The people don't know the law, even the basics, so the government is now practicing and expanding and creating Nazi-like precedence. And again joining us is Chris Klicka, and, uh, it's great to have you on the show Chris, to break down this incredible development.

CK: It's amazing what has happened in Illinois. You have a superintendent in charge of three counties, who has taken it upon himself to exceed his authority, send out squad cars to home schoolers. There's 22 of them that have been contacted already in this three county area. One truant officer. We got one account from one of our members, home school families. The truant officer said, "I can take your kids, away if I want to" and was scaring the mother.

AJ: Now that's pure terrorism, that is textbook terrorism.

CK: Oh, you're not kidding, this is intimidation to the maximum. And another time they insisted on entering a person's house, they looked at the curriculum, they didn't think it was good enough, then they were demanding this lady go to a pre-trial hearing. The squad cars would deliver personal letters to families saying they had to come to a pre-trial hearing. And none of these families had done nothing wrong. It's simply a profiling that because they're home schoolers, he's considering them guilty.

AJ: Well he calls it "at risk". There was a report in the Austin paper two weeks ago, finally they're admitting the truth. They're grabbing hundreds of children of every month for "at-risk". You go in to have some work done to your diabetes, and they show up and grab your child. Your baby has diaper rash, it's seen at day care they get paid off to call CPS, they grab your child. And it's the same system, they call them into these courts. They go "come to this pre-trail hearing" maybe we'll give your child back. This is like the Soviet Union.

CK: Oh, it's unbelievable. And we've been representing our families in Illinois, like as we do in all fifty states, and this situation where we've written letters to Superintendents, we've told them we're not going to pre-trail hearings, we're not going to allow home visits, they're unconstitutional, they violate the fourth amendment rights of these families. We've told the superintendent that we are prepared to sue him. He continues these tactics, I have talked to him personally. And it seems that he is going.. he is considering hard changing his policies. So, I'm so thankful for the press coverage because it's put a lot of pressure on him to, uh you know, back down..

AJ: By the way, this commissar's name is Bruce Dennison, Regional Superintendent of three counties..

CK: That's right. And so, when I talked with him, he seems to be not so much mean spirited, as he genuinely thinks he's doing a good job. He takes...

AJ: Let me give you an example. I have the Calhoun Reader, used at the University of Texas as the standard social worker reference book. It's the keystone of their four year training for a bachelor's. And it says, in the book, I have read this quote many times that, "Family belong to the age of barbarism, that the schools will become the "hub" who'll have cradle to grave schooling. Now they are talking about making toddlers go to public school. Now of course, head start families get two CPS visits a year. They're taking children out of the custody here in Texas of about one third of the homes. This is like a science fiction horror movie. But they're doing it all color of law. You're a lawyer aren't you?

CK: That's correct. I've been senior counsel for eighteen years at Home Schooling Defense...

AJ: Can't you speak to what this color, colorable law these are fraudulent documents on their face to say "You better come to our pre-trial hearing" On the face it looks like that's false arrest, really that's what it is.

CK: It is. It's a violation of families basic due process rights. And it's .. they're liable for this kind of tactic. Because they don't have to go to such hearing. These pre-trail hearings aren't truly pre-trial hearings, they're simply a facade, because there is no court action...

AJ: It's a place to pressure group the families into signing other contracts waving rights.

CK: That's exactly right. We deal with social workers every single day, in every state. These are home school families who the social worker gets an anonymous tip... somebody's prejudiced against them. they come to the door, they insist on entering , even though it's a violation of the family's fourth amendment rights. They insist on getting in, interviewing the children separately. And of course we stop that. The families call us, they hand the phone out the door, we tell the social worker or the cop or whoever it is that they don't have the authority to come in. We work it out keep them away from the home, and out of the home...

AJ: The bottom line...

CK: Most families are intimidated, and give in to these kind of tactics.

AJ: Well this teacher did, she is a certified government training camp teacher. She's raising her daughter because she doesn't want her to become... you know, a .. Crack addict or something. I mean that's just reasonable. I wouldn't put my children in one of these camps for anything. That's what they are. So where does this go. Because It's obviously a concerted effort. We know Bill Clinton attacked home schooling; even some conservative talk show hosts have done it. How do we unify the two plus million home schooling families to stand up against this, and to back them up. Because we had you on about the California situation, Tie this all together for us.

CK: Well, we've got some good news on the horizon. There's two levels of attack. We've got one level its coming from states to legislatures or state superintendents that are trying to tighten up restrictions on home school freedoms. The other avenue's coming through the child welfare agencies one's you've been talking about in Texas and these kind of things where they're intimidating people, they're acting like they know what's best for the children. The children the families don't and they're trying to take kids without proper due process the good news is for instance in Texas, we've got a group of legislatures we're working with right now, Home School Defense is working with them, we're preparing a package it's going to be introduced to the legislature this year so reform the child welfare system to build in some due process protection so they can't get away with these kind of tactics.

AJ: Well that due process was already there, inherent in the Bill of Rights

CK: Oh, I know...

AJ: I know you know that, but here's the problem. My friend, Mike Hansen. His children, One of them is home schooled, the other one goes to government training camp. And Mike, his grandmother died. And he took the children, one of the children out of the public school for one day, wrote a letter the next day. Well the next day they got a...(Knocking sound effect) knock at the door at 6:30 at night. CPS worker, with the county constable trying to force their way in. The child opened the door, they started pushing into his house. This is textbook Soviet Union, this is terrorism. How about criminal charges against these people?

CK: We can . We do that. At Home Schooling Defense, we have filed numerous suits against the Child Welfare agencies for violating the rights of families when they push their way in like that , and we've won. Won two big cases In the state of California at the high federal court appellate level which effects the neighboring states as well. That clearly states that a social worker is under the same limitations of our constitution as any other law enforcement official. They cannot enter homes without warrants signed by a judge. And a judge can't sign a warrant unless he has probable cause. None of this breaking in and ...

AJ: Here in Austin, they seize children at birth if the mother's on food stamps. They cal it "at-risk". It's been all over the news. And they don't even have a judges order, they sign an emergency order themselves, and have the judge sign it the next day.

CK: See, that's part of changes that need to be made in the law. And that's what we're working on. Because some of the state laws have gotten a little further than our constitution allows. So it takes us going in there...

AJ: A little bit further? I was reading about Franco's Spain, where they took people's children.

CK: Oh yeah...

AJ: I mean that's exactly what America's done. I'm just blown away here. Now last time you were on, you talked about, and I agree with you, this is a chilling effect isn't it? Isn't this to intimidate parents so they won't do it?

CK: That's exactly right. It is causing a chilling effect in a lot of families ... they don't know their rights are intimidated. And they let them in and they waive their constitutional rights as a result just because of the intimidation.

I was gonna tell you there's one other bit of good news. On Capitol Hill, I testified at the end of last year, during the anthrax scare, on a bill called the Child Abuse Prevention and Treatment Act and this is a big government funding program that gives the fifty states money for child welfare agencies Well I offered five amendments, and two of them got accepted, and they're expected to pass in this lame duck session or the first thing next session but it will restore certain due process rights in all fifty states.

AJ: Alright, stay right there, one more quick segment sir, I really appreciate your joining us. We've got the head of the Home School Legal Defense association. For eighteen years he's been fighting a lot of families they've helped in a big way. We'll tell you about their website as well. I want to talk about racketeering civil rights suits because if this isn't racketeering nothing is; what they're doing to our children.

AJ: We're talking to Christopher Klicka, senior counsel and staff attorney, director of state and international relations for a great organization, Home School Legal Defense Association. We've only got time for one call here during this last segment with him, but I want to get back to this racketeering. You know I'm not a lawyer, but I've studied the law and the whole federal government is engaging in color of law organized crime operations. They're attacking good citizens. Home schoolers have the highest test scores, the best rates of not being involved in drugs, and sex, and crime. We all know this, it's embarrassing to public schools, and they're engaging... I mean I know good, upstanding people who make $500,000 a year that have had CPS visits. I mean this country is falling apart, Chris. What do we do?

CK: Well I think eternal vigilance is what's necessary. That means people need to be involved. They need to listen to your program so they can get up to minute news. As you tell them times when they need to call their congressman, their legislators. We can stop this. I've seen home schoolers when they band together we can stop these things. We've defeated just tons of legislation over the years. We had a government nanny bill in Florida last year that passed the legislature by a last minute trick at the end of the year. They convinced Jeb Bush to veto it and kill this government nanny bill that would have controlled kids from cradle to grave kind of thing...

AJ: Doesn't this show Chris, that they think they own our children? They've said it in speeches and educational conferences they think that they own our children. Isn't this more of a reason for more parents to leave the public schools?

CK: Oh, I agree wholeheartedly. The public school is not a safe place for our kids hearts or souls anymore. You can't pray, you can't have the ten commandments on anything [it's silent]. Not to mention all the socialism that's being taught, the secular humanism. That's why I'm so excited and I work so hard on home schooling. Because it's a way for the parents to instill the values of our forefathers in the children, and they can teach them the Bible. You know the bedrock of our society.

AJ: Well I plan to home school myself. The website hslda.org hslda.org I'm sure you've heard about the 3,500 missing children it's now up to that number of the 46,000 they grab in Florida, and the CPS can't even say where the children are.

CK: Right and we're there on the front lines of the CPS battle, and we're winning it. We're winning it in the courts, we're winning it in the legislatures, we're winning it before Congress.

AJ: All we need, wouldn't you agree is disclosure of these people. It's so evil what they're doing, there's no way they can survive the light of day.

CK: That's right, and we need people to join Home School Legal Defense. If they do, we can build up our numbers and our ability to make change. And it when's people have solidarity with one another. As Benjamin Franklin once said, "If we don't hang together, most assuredly we're going to hang separately."

AJ: Absolutely. Quick call. Rhonda from Missouri, you're on the air with our guest, go ahead Rhonda

CALLER: Hi Chris, Hi Alex. I don't get this making new laws things. You know we have the Constitution. I think this making new laws just legitimizes their right to come after you. "OK, we have the right to your children, if we follow the proper procedures."

AJ: I think what he's saying is they passed previous draconian laws now those need to be struck down or overwritten.

CK: Exactly. We don't want to pass new laws creating anything new, we just going after the old laws get them to fit the Constitution.

CALLER: Like Alex says to you earlier, has anyone been held criminally accountable? You know, maybe we should see if you will district managers do perp walks.

AJ: Well a federal judge just got kicked off the bench for protecting pedophiles, that's MSNBC today.

CALLER: How about in your situation? Are you gonna go press any criminal charges?

CK: It's hard to do criminal charges.. It's just a whole easier to do civil rights cases where...

AJ: Yeah, they claim immunity

CALLER: Well you see the thing is we're running out of time, you know. Americans, we're patient people. We've been very patient , we've been very forgiving, we've forgiven a lot of things, but the rubber's meeting the road now And, you know, and you know we need to quit dancing around the bush.

AJ: Those two suits you won in California, what were those for?

CK: Those were for CPS workers in the door, and they literally pushed their way in, strip searched, in one instance, the child, and we went after them for both punitive damages which is almost like criminal but its just money damages instead of...

CALLER: Yeah, our money that they're paying us off with, as Alex so brilliantly states all the time. You know they have no problem. They're the Lords, they sit up there on their thrones they're still untouched, they still walk around...

AJ: Three thousand five hundred missing children that CPS has taken in Florida and no one has been charged. That shows the incredible level of tyranny.

CALLER: That's enough.

AJ: Thanks Rhonda. We've been talking with senior counsel and staff attorney Director for state and international relations for Home School Legal Defense Association. Chris, thank you for joining us , and I hope folks go to hslda.org to learn their rights, and I really appreciate your joining us.

CK: We're right on line, if you want to be part of Home School Defense. Thank you very much.

AJ: Thank You. We'll be right back with more calls.

Alex Jones Show - November 4 2002

2011-08-24T23:57:01Z

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Interview of Greg Palast
November 4, 2002
Alex Jones Radio Show

AJ: He is an investigative reporter. He’s talked about Lord Wakeham, head of N.M. Rothschild trying to censor him. He broke the story, one of the biggest stories of the last year. In fact, one of the biggest stories ever and I’m serious when I say that about a thousand pages getting leaked out of the World Bank. And, of course, the defection of Stiglitz, the chief economist of the World Bank. Their plan to implode economies, their four-part plan. We are going to recap that today and get the latest developments from this investigative journalist, who I would call a populist, because – you know, Greg Palast is a hero of the left, but this guy went after Bill Clinton. He exposes this corporate elite that is big government, that is socialistic in their consolidation of the public trust, then consolidating that into their private hands. We are dealing with a command and control system, ladies and gentlemen, and he does real investigative journalism like they did in this country one-hundred years ago. We are honored to have him.

What’s the latest info that you are working on, sir? Good to have you on.

GP: Okay, great to be on Alex. And by the way, that’s the famous, I guess I’m not the darling of the left anymore, they are very upset with me. The problem is that my target is not the left or the right. My target is a very small privileged elite which thinks that the globe is their toy. And I think that journalists, like you say the old time journalists, muckrakers, used to think that that was their job to uncover that stuff. And it’s kind of gone out of style. So, but I’m glad that you’ve opened up a chink in the electronic Berlin wall here to get this information out. So I really do appreciate it.

I’ve been working on a lot of things. One, I just came back from Caracas, Venezuela. And the U.S. government and the banks and the oil companies have been working out on the president of Venezuela - the communist dictator and etc. What they don’t tell you is the reason they are out after this guy is that he is not just the president of Venezuela; he is the president of OPEC. And he has doubled the royalties on oil companies taking oil out of Venezuela. Not many people know that Venezuela is our main supplier of oil in this hemisphere.

AJ: Seven days before the attempted coup, on the legitimately elected president of Venezuela, you said look for a coup in the next month.

GP: That’s right.

AJ: And the transcript and that audio file are on the selected interview section of infowars.com. Greg, how did you call that one with such precision?

GP: Well, actually, it wasn’t a big guess. I guess, now I can tell you, is that I got a call from, I spoke to the Secretary General of OPEC in Vienna. And he had received, ah, Khadafi had contacted him to threaten a boycott against the United States. Khadafi is no great, wonderful guy. And the head of OPEC reminded him that OPEC has now banned political boycotts. Nevertheless, the word got out to the U.S. And the head of OPEC realized well what can the U.S. do to counter any threat of a boycott or, let’s say, we do invade Iraq, those oil fields will be on fire. Where do you suddenly find an extra million or two million barrels of oil? Our supposed friends, the Saudi Arabians, won’t give us an extra drop if all of our factories start shutting down. They’d be thrilled to see us go under – the Saudis. Where do we get the oil? And the answer would be from Venezuela, which can produce an extra two million barrels of oil at the flip of a switch. And, but there is a fear in the Bush Administration that the president of Venezuela will not go along and give this oil to Exxon, which controls most of the oil in Venezuela.

AJ: Well let’s expand on this point of him supposedly being a communist. Now, he’s not a communist.

GP: Oh no, he’s a very religious Catholic. You know, he’s from the old style kind of progressive land-reform guy. He believes in land reform and redistribution of wealth in Venezuela, where you have a tiny-weenie elite. You can’t compare it to the United States. You’ve got this tiny elite with giant plantations in big giant apartments in Caracas.

AJ: Well, let me expand on that. It is pointless, what his political persuasion is. I’m tired of this corporate elite, this Carlyle Group, you know CIA-pan axis, telling me that they are going to fight communists when they are telling us that China’s our ally, when they are selling political dissidents organs, giving nuclear reactors to North Korea. I watched the history channel and they now admit that the CIA actually put Mao into power, they put Fidel into power, they helped prop Ho Chi Minh up until 1963. It’s the same story over and over again. They call somebody a communist when they want the natural resources. Now, I guess it’s not communist, they call them terrorists.

GP: Yeah, see communist doesn’t work too well anymore, especially when we are selling equipment to the Chinese to go pulling out the fingernails of Christian priests.

Crosstalk

AJ: Bush just said two weeks ago, Greg Palast, that ah you can ahead and have Taiwan, China.

GP: Well, you know it’s so, after all the biggest nation supporting the communist Chinese is the current administration in the White House. And so now it’s terrorism. But the President of Venezuela, and by the way whether we like him or not, whether he’s a wonderful guy or not, he’s elected. And when someone, a journalist did ask them at the White House, surprisingly, how can you move to overthrow an elected official, an elected president? And the White House response was – well, winning a majority of the vote does not make your government legitimate. That’s a pretty interesting statement out of the White House.

AJ: Yeah, we’ve saw that before.

GP: And in fact, by the way, that’s another thing I want to bring up at some point is what’s happening Tuesday with the monkeying with votes again. I’m just deeply disturbed about the information I’ve uncovering out of Florida, once again. But no question, out of Venezuela, we are seeing this. Turkey is, now we have an Islamic government that’s taking over in Turkey. That’s going to be really lovely. And how did that happen? That happened because the IMF/World Bank squeezed that nation until it screamed. My books, by the way, are very popular in Turkey because I tried to explain what’s going on with the World Bank and the IMF reform.....

AJ: Well, I’ll tell you what, let’s explain it, can we revert back to that interview about a year ago?

GP: Oh, sure.

AJ: Concerning the four-part World Bank/IMF plan and Stiglitz, and break down those four points. I mean, this is a big deal. I mean people are saying why are the economies imploding and the government is saying give us control of your lives – we’re here to save you when their own documents show they’re engineering it. Please go over that, sir.

GP: Okay, well what happened is that about a year ago, I received a good thousand pages of documents from inside the World Bank and the IMF, the International Monetary Fund, based out of Washington. These are the two organizations which work in coordination with the WTO, World Trade Organization, and they are in control of the world movement of capital. They are, in effect, the central bank and the, kind of a Treasury Dept. for the planet. And, of course, they work very closely with banks out of New York. And, I say of course, I didn’t get this information from inside. So, I’m looking at these documents..

AJ: Well, it’s the same private owners of the stocks of these banks, Dutch Royal family, British royal family, and others.

GP: Well, what you have is that you have, in the documents I have, and I have some of them photocopied in the book. I’m going to try to get more on the web. I’ve just been..

AJ: gregpalast.com

GP: gregpalast.com. I’ll be putting up more. And, by the way, the U.S. version of my book, much expanded, will be coming out in February. But, in the meantime, from BBC television and the Guardian newspapers, which is considered the most prestigious of papers on the planet, I received these documents. And they’d say, officially, don’t look at this, World Bank – you have to be authorized. And each cover says Argentina, Bolivia, Venezuela, Botswana, and it has all these nations. And it has for each nation an economic program. When you look at the economic program, most of them have these very nice names like Poverty Reduction Strategy. And you think, boy or boy, they are really going to help out these nations. So why is it secret if it’s going to be so helpful? Have you ever heard of anyone kind of secretly helping someone? So, why the secrecy? And you open this stuff up and these are programs which point-by-point, I mean they go on for sometimes one-hundred pages, and they have specific demands on each country. Which if they don’t agree to – they call them conditionalities – and they average 114 conditionalities per nation. You get your international finance – it’s cut off unless you agree to the whole package. And one nation after another is required to sell-off their water systems, electric systems to foreign operators. It requires the sale of the banks to foreign operators, allowing, changing rules to allow the banks to remove the capital from nations. And one of the most tragic cases I saw was Argentina where the economy was, where the...

AJ: And they call it the IMF riot. They know it’s going to create riots.

GP: Well yeah, one of the things I should mention is that, in the plans they say we know, for example in the case of Ecuador, it actually says that this will cause social unrest if you implement this plan. Which, and so I, now the former chief economist of the World Bank is named Joe Stiglitz. And the guy is not some type of whacko. The man just won the Nobel Prize in economics, okay? Now, I spoke to him for hours at Cambridge University and at one of the schools of economics where we both lectured – and I’m an economist as well, by the way. And he basically said that they have a plan which they know, and they called it internally the IMF Riot, they deliberately knew that these plans would set off riots and cause these capitols of these nations to burn down.

AJ: And that causes the economy to further implode and they have a consolidation.

GP: And then everything is up for sale – cheap.

AJ: Greg Palast, we’ll be back in a just few minutes. Stay right there....

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AJ: He has written multiple books. The website is gregpalast.com. Greg, have you seen the new Council on Foreign Relations report they put out about a week and a half ago – “America Still Unprepared - America Still in Danger,” by Gary Hart and Rudman?

GP: Regarding Saudi Arabia? I just saw another one of the reports, but go ahead, maybe you’re talking about a different one.

AJ: Well, it just says that give total control to a select group of corporations, under CFR control, nationalize basically everything but have control of the private corporations, put troops in all the factories and on the streets – or, they say on page 31, eighty to eighty plus percent will die in major cities. They say if we follow their orders only 20% of us are going to die. This is an incredibly chilling document. “America Still Unprepared – America Still in Danger,” Report of an Independent Task Force, Sponsored by the Council on Foreign Relations. And these are all the Carlyle Group people – these are the names you expose.

GP: Yeah, I know Alex, the Council on Foreign Relations is always doing a great job of saving us from ourselves. And, in a democracy, I prefer the vote to the Council.

AJ: Certainly, in our Constitutional Republic, but what I’m trying to say here Greg Palast is that what’s in the IMF plan for total takeover by the international banks is exactly what's in this 40-page report.

GP: Yeah, it’s the same group. In fact, Stiglitz told me, you know, he would sit around with people in the U.S. Treasury, also Joe Stiglitz was the chief economist in the World Bank. He was in Clinton’s cabinet as the Chairman of the Council of Economic Advisors. And he would say, some of these top guys in the Treasury, I can’t give you the names he gave me, but you would recognize them. And we’d sit around and say well, does this policy, how does this policy float in the CitiBank? And literally, they’re sitting around the Treasury Dept., you know, like these guys don’t even hear themselves and understand what they were saying. Maybe, they did and they just got so used to it. He said since when is that the touchstone of our domestic and foreign economic policy is how it plays at Citibank. They actually believe in this stuff. I mean that’s something that you have to understand. They believe that they are really saving us. I don’t believe that they are doing it just because they’re – it does make them all very rich, like Robert Rubin. I think he’s making one-hundred million dollars a year and he goes from the U.S. Treasury to CitiBank. And he doesn’t see that as a conflict. He sees that as helping the world.....

AJ: Well, these are just managers. Yeah, they are the chosen ones. They need to run our lives (crosstalk)

GP: Yeah, they are the operators. That’s right. They’re not the owners. But what I should mention reading these reports, there are repercussions for us. I mean, I don’t care if these guys are running around trying to run our planet if they did a good job of it. The problem is, for example, when the IMF and World Bank seized the economy of Turkey. I just got their Turkish internal report that’s secret. The problem is that they destroyed the economy by requiring the nation to raise interest rates through the roof. Imagine if you had credit card purchases that cost you 250%? Exactly what would you buy tomorrow? So that destroys an economy. The economy starts going down. And today, an Islamic Party, this weekend an Islamic Party was just elected to power in Turkey. And every single report says the same thing. The people there don’t care about these Islamic fundamentalists but they are so tired of being impoverished by their current leaders going along with the World Bank plan that they turn to the Islamic Party. Unfortunately, they turn to the Islamic Party and that comes back to haunt the rest of the planet. So there are repercussions.

AJ: Now, let’s understand because in the reports and in your book, in your interview that you did, that we did, and you posted a transcript on your site that’s gone worldwide, as you said and published in many newspapers, Mr. Palast, they admit though that they want to destabilize countries so they can’t pay back the debt. I mean, isn’t that part of the 4-part plan?

GP: Yeah, they want to, I mean, they don’t, they wouldn’t say to themselves so we can become rich, what they say is well if there’s a little instability, which is masked by what they call resolve, meaning troops in the street. Then they'll be no visible dissent to our program to what they would call rationalize the economy, which is to turn them over. But like in the case of Argentina, the water systems were turned over to Enron Corporation and Vivendi Corporation of France. And Enron took the Buenos Aires water system and the assets disappeared, all the workers were fired, the pipes started breaking, the water was contaminated, the bills went up and so there were, of course, people in the streets throwing rocks and burning cars. And so, it has repercussions because it comes back to us. Then Enron implodes and the United States taxpayer is now on the hook for the cost in Argentina. Did you know that our government treasury is now going to have to pay for the costs of repairing the Argentine system that Enron wrecked. I don’t know, you know they took off with millions, if not billions of dollars...

AJ: Oh yeah, all their Cayman Island offshore accounts. We know that they just imploded that as a dummy corporation having transferred the actual wealth before the implosion.

GP: I mean, the problem is that we are backing up through our Export-Import Bank through our Export Guarantee Corporation, it’s U.S. taxpayer money.

AJ: What are we going to hit on when we get back, Greg? What are some of the points, real quick.

GP: Tuesday, the election and the Saudis, our buddies.

AJ: Alright, stay right there and we’ll also take calls at 800-259-9231.

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AJ: Welcome back, folks. I’m Alex Jones. It’s real radio, crashing through the phony left-right paradigm, showing you who really runs the planet. We’re talking to award-winning journalist from the BBC and author, Greg Palast, here on the show with us. We are about to go to Eleanor, Richard and others, who are holding. The toll-free number to join us on the air: 1-800-259-9231, if you have any questions or comments for Greg Palast, 1-800-259-9231. Greg, one more quick question about the water. I remember seeing articles through the PR firms, the mainstream media, that there’s no fresh water. You are going to have to pay hundreds of dollars now for what would cost dollars years ago. Then I watched these international corporations that own the central banks grabbing up all the water supplies worldwide, trying to make farmers put meters on their wells, and in very temperate areas, lots of water with aquifers brimming. And we see this consolidation; this really is fascism. They socialize the wealth and transfer it through a wealth pipeline, no pun intended, to themselves. I mean how does this whole water thing work?

GP: You know, the water pirates are just amazing. And by the way, here’s a great one for you. You know who’s one of their big buddies is Jeb Bush out of Florida. He was behind the scenes to turn over to a company named Azurix, the fresh water that comes out of the Everglades. Which right now, anyone from any of these cities can take the fresh water from the Everglades without cost to consumers. At the moment, the water is being contaminated by sugar plantations – big, big contributors to the Bush family and, by the way, to the Democratic Party. They are the biggest contributors to both parties in Florida. Isn’t that interesting? And those guys who are destroying the water of the Everglades, rather than being told to clean up their act, which would cost them about $800 million. Instead, this company Azurix said, well you give us the water, we’ll clean it up, as long as you let us resell it. Azurix was until a couple of months ago, a 100% owned subsidiary of Enron.

AJ: As if they own water that was already there. Meanwhile they are forcing the families and the neighborhoods out, saying they are going to flood their land and using the phony environmental movement to clean them off the land so they can own it, when they are the ones actually hurting the environment. It’s just so classic.

GP: Yeah, in fact, I’m concerned because I saw this happen in Britain where the water was privatized and the water bills went up 250%. Enron took over a big company called Essex Water. It got to the point where you could get arrested in Britain for watering your lawn during certain weeks.

AJ: Now, let’s understand this. They call it privatization but it’s not. It’s like Hitler saying, “ all right Herman Goerring, we’re going to privatize this factory. You own it now.” I mean that’s all their doing. This is not free market.

GP: Well, you know, the guy that ordered the privatization in Britain is a guy named Lord Wakeham, what a character. And he was on the audit committee of the Board of Directors of Enron. And yet, here’s the guy, the guy who sold Enron the water system, sold Enron the electric system of Britain. And who was supposedly in charge of monitoring their books on their Board of Directors.

AJ: But then again, he’s the head of N.M. Rothschild.

GP: And also, Wakeham, he’s connected to most of the major international banks. Plus, he’s actually a voting member of the House of Lords. So you know, he didn’t miss a trick. So these are the guys who are making these wonderful decisions. Do I trust their decisions? Are they looking out for the interests of the average person? I have a few doubts about that.

AJ: Well, my point is, they really fund the phony mainstream environmental movement. They use it to grab people’s land while they are the ones putting in MTB in the fuel. They’re the ones dumping the toxic wastes in the ocean and then they’re like, oh we’ve got to save the environment. Take everybody’s ranch property.

GP: Well, I’m very concerned that there are, that there’s a huge mis-direction sometimes in the environmental movement. Not looking to the corporate powers, which are grabbing these properties. And we did have some problems with some of the green groups who thought it would be a brilliant move to use market mechanisms to save the environment – like raising the price of water to ranchers and to farmers.

AJ: And it just so happens that these international corporations are going to own that water.

GP: Yeah, and the problem is that you raise the price and all that does is allow the water and power pirates to come in and seize the property.

AJ: There you go and now, Greg Palast, I know you’ve studied this in depth, I’m seeing Democrats just caught here in Austin, rigging the electronic voting machines. It was in our paper Thursday. I never even covered it. You got lots of little Democratic scams going on down at the micro level.

GP: The Democrats are becoming, it’s very interesting, the Democrats have perfected retail vote stealing and the Republicans are perfecting wholesale vote stealing.

AJ: There you go. Break it down for us.

GP: They tend to divide the market in vote fraud. They have their own monopoly. The interesting one, of course, that will be significant, is in Florida where brother Jeb is running for his life, for reelection. And I’ve uncovered, before the presidential election, for BBC television in 2000 that Jeb Bush and Katherine Harris had knocked off, I thought 57,000. Now, by the way, Harris says it was 94,000 people off the voter roles - most of them, or about half of them, African Americans - most of them Democrats. And now she has signed an agreement with the courts of Florida to return these people to the voter roles. This is tens of thousands of voters. And guess what? They are not going to be able to do it by Tuesday’s election when Jeb Bush is on the ballot. So you are going to see tens of thousands of voters, mostly Democrats, about half of them African American, not permitted to vote in the Tuesday's elections. And it’s going to be a squeaker by absolutely everyone’s analysis. So you have the right point. There is no monopoly of any party on vote theft. It’s just that in Florida, the Republicans have complete control of the machinery.

AJ: Yeah, I’ve known of some Democrats who stuff the ballot boxes, run the scams at the county level – even in Republican counties. I don’t know how they get away with it. We’ve caught them several times here in Austin. But then at the national level, the Republicans do it from the very seats of power.

GP: The Republicans are more sophisticated. I actually talked to Terry McAuliffe, the head of the Democratic Party. The Republicans have figured out how to use computers and are pushing toward computerizing all the voting systems of America. In fact, that came out in what is called weirdly the Martin Luther King Voting Reform Act of 2002. I’m sure Dr. King is spinning in his grave ...

AJ: Chuckie Schumer is co-sponsoring that which shows that some of the Democrats are going along with it.

GP: I know. I’ve very nervous because you know what it is it’s an incumbent reelection insurance plan. The Democrats like it. The Republicans like it who are in office because, for example, in New York Democrats control the voting machinery in many areas. So they don’t mind centralized computing where they can monkey with the vote. And the Republicans certainly like it in Florida where they control the machinery. I mean, how many politicians have gone together and shook hands on a system which will keep the incumbents incumbent? The problem is that once you centralize, once you have these massive central computerized voting systems, including control of the registry, then you get...

AJ: With zero checks and balances.

GP: Well let’s look at it this way. Florida just used the, what’s called, a company called, ES&S, the new voting machines, the touch-screen voting. In some offices, you had 19,000 voters with 29,000 votes cast. I mean, you can have goof-ups and manipulations and games played with computers on a scale that you can’t imagine with the old games of, you know, filling out fake applications.

AJ: Well, as of Thursday’s Austin American Statesman, there were eight signed affidavits. Now, it’s over 500, I’m told – where at one voting center, at one HEB here in Austin grocery store voting area, you go in the Democrat election judges say, here just press this, especially to Hispanics who can’t speak English. They press and vote straight Democratic tickets. Now that’s just local level and that’s confirmed and nothing is going to be done about it.

GP: Yeah, well because the incumbents in each party who have control of their own little areas, it kind of like a wink and nod, we don’t question what you’re doing. You know the most amazing thing about Florida is that while the NAACP suit over the removal of these tens of thousands of black voters, innocent people, removed from the voter roles on the grounds that they are felons who committed crimes. I had one guy – I actually have, I was able to obtain the actual computer files from Katherine Harris’s office, the actual computer files. They have people, there was one guy named Thomas Cooper, it shows him convicted on January 30th, 2007. This is the type of junk that they use to knock people out. It’s all garbage, right? And they admit it’s garbage. The company that came up with the list said it was garbage. The company made an announcement that they will never do this again. You can’t do this stuff honestly with computers. And don’t forget that there is a connection between the computerization of the voter roles and the computerization of the so-called anti-terrorism record. It’s the same company that computerizes voter roles in Florida and basically led to this massive vote fraud in Florida that’s going to happen on Tuesday. It’s called Choicepoint out of Atlanta. They are the number one beneficiary of the war on terror. That’s a quote from Forbes Magazine, by the way. They said we don’t know who’s lost the war on terror but we know who’s won. The Choicepoint Company, which has 20 billion records on every living person in the United States, 20 billion records, including, by the way, they are building a national DNA database. Now, I don’t know about you but I don’t feel safer from terrorists when the United States government has a DNA database on me...

AJ: Wired Magazine reported that hundreds of grocery stores, dozens of chains have put pressure sensors under the tiles on the floor, biometric face-scanning cameras and microphones. This is in hundreds of stores right now. And they are building digital algorithms, psychological outlays by your purchases, how long you linger, by what you do, then they instantly upload your credit card purchases into a NSA databank. That’s Wired Magazine. I mean this is going past the big brother.

GP: Well you have to understand, the new anti-terrorism law has a provision which I found very, that concerned me greatly. For the first time, the U.S. Justice Dept. will be entitled to access private databases like this company Choicepoint.

AJ: And they can share.

GP: And it used to be that you had to go to court. You know the constitution under the 5th amendment says you have to go get a warrant to break into people’s homes in effect. Well breaking into a private database, the courts used to say that’s the equivalent of breaking into someone’s home. And now under the anti-terrorist bill, the U.S. Justice Department has the right to kind of go leafing through computer files without a warrant.

AJ: Well, the sneak-and-peek provision, Section 213, (USA PATRIOT Act) says they can do it in your actual home, business, library and then order you, if you catch them there, to not tell anyone.

GP: I’m very concerned about this especially with Choicepoint and its DNA database because I don’t like the combination fact that this is the company that through its database manipulation of voter roles of Florida, they, in effect, by computer chose our president and now he’s chosen them for the biggest contract in anti-terrorism.

AJ: By the way, I have a report here out of Ohio where they are going door-to-door to collect blood samples and just asking people to do it. They are now taking blood from all babies in all the major states and admittedly putting it into this database. Were you aware of that?

GP: Yeah, well, you know they are doing this, they are saying, for example, like Choicepoint, this company, that selected our president, now they are making billions. They’re doing things, like they got a big play on ABC television saying that they have been able to spring innocent men from jail who had committed rape because they used their DNA – ah, were accused of committing rape because they used their DNA database to prove that they are innocent. They use a couple of good, good things that they use the database so that they find a missing child through this DNA database. So everyone says oh yeah take my baby’s blood. Well, before you do that, there’s nothing, unless they give you a contract that says this will only be used in case your child is missing or lost and you agree to release this information.

AJ: Well, the Supreme Court has ruled that they can take that blood, get a protein out of it or a genetic system, and then patent it. Also, they can frame you with it.

GP: Well the problem is, I just think that, you know, the new expansion of, by using the cover of anti-terrorism, to break into our personal files, lives, and even our DNA sequences, I just worry whether that actually makes us a lot safer. And you know, what we are not doing, on the other side of the coin, is our buddies the Saudis, who this week announced that if we do attack Iraq, they are not going to give us any help.

AJ: Let’s talk about that in a second. Let’s take a few calls or we’ll never get to them.

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AJ: Let’s talk to Richard in Florida. Richard, you are on the air, go ahead.

Richard: Hello, Alex?

AJ: Yes Richard, go ahead.

Richard: I have a question for Greg. I personally don’t deny the existence, I believe in it but to a skeptic how can I prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that W199Eye is a legitimate document?

GP: The book, I’m going to have it in the updated version of my book an actual copy of these documents.

AJ: Well, you have several pages.

GP: But there is, right now, a book called, “The Forbidden Truth”, which was just put out in its English edition, which has added some of these documents. All W199 says is that, it shows that the U.S. FBI had closed and then on September 13th of 2001, two days after the attack on the World Trade Center, re-opened that investigation of the bin Laden family, indicating that the investigation had been previously shut down.

AJ: Look, I read the document here on air. The thing is on-line. It was in nine major newspapers. You can go to infowars.com and print it off. You’ve got the government blocking investigations of al Qaeda, of the bin Ladens, of Humas. We’ve got FBI agent Robert Wright. We’ve got Judicial Watch head Larry Klayman. And David Schippers at the National Press Club giving an hour-long press conference of how they were blocked from stopping al Queda and hijackers at bases. That’s been all over the news.

GP: There is a massive suit brought by the attorney, it’s a multi-trillion dollar suit for the victims of September 11th, against the Saudi government.

AJ: And the New York Times just reported that that’s been thrown out.

GP: Yes, because the U.S. government is stepping in, not because there’s not evidence, but the U.S. government is stepping in saying that the lawsuit is a threat to U.S. national security. Now finding out who killed the people on September 11th, who backed al Qaeda, who backed these terrorists and gave them money, it strikes me that that’s in the interest of our national security. As opposed to, it’s because what this, what the lawsuit was saying and it uses some of the material that I had, while I was very appreciative, is that.. By the way, French intelligence is now, confirmed, some of the things that I had been informed of. For example, in May of 1996, there was a meeting of the al Qaeda financial arm with Saudi Arabian billionaires to determine how much money will go from Saudi Arabia to al Qaeda and which billionaires will pay what.

AJ: On June 6, 2001, the LA Times reported Bush sent $135 million more to the Taliban and al Qaeda.

GP: Right, and that was supposedly for their moves to irradiate opium.

AJ: Yeah, right.

GP: In Afghanistan, you know of course, it doesn’t mean that they don’t use the money for torturing their fellow citizens. But what I’m very concerned about was the Saudi funding of the al Qaeda network. Now, I’ve have mentioned that on Alex’s show last year. I had gotten that information from not the best of sources, not the most savory sources. I got that from international arms dealers who were involved in the meeting. As it now turns out, French Intelligence has confirmed the meeting. And not only that but I discovered that French Intelligence actually had a mole in the meeting and we now have the information from the meeting.

AJ: I want to hear about that when we get back. I hope that answers your question, Richard. Final segment with Greg Palast coming up.

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AJ: Alright, Greg Palast’s book, “The Best Democracy Money can Buy” has two pages of W199Eye in it and he said that the new edition, coming out here in the next few months in the United States, will have more of the documents. BBC, Times of London, French news, India news, it all reported it. Bush knew, Bush blocked the FBI, you know, headlines like that. You can go and read those stories on infowars.com in the Bush news section. So you can simply go check that out or find out more at gregpalast.com. They posted more of those documents up there. Greg, I know I’ve been running over you a lot and you’ve said a lot. There’s just so many points to hit. Here in the last few minutes, any other key areas you want to hit on.

GP: Well, like I said, I’m concerned about this vote theft on Tuesday. I’m concerned that if we go into Iraq, look out for 48 hours later that they’re going to assassinate the president of Venezuela. They talk about Saddam but it’s Venezuela that they want. And, by the way, I want to tie in a couple of these things. They all tie up together, these stories, you know. Which is that when in the case of Venezuela, we are looking at a president who is dissented from the new globalization order. And that’s why they call him a communist and a dictator, etc. As one of his ministers said, we are the people who have dissented from the IMF and the World Bank. They cannot let this man survive.

AJ: Well, so has Malaysia, too.

GP: Well, yeah, Malaysia and other countries have said forget it, that they have been, they’ve gotten away because they have other financial resources, as well.

AJ: And they have a couple trillion dollars of sweet crude they’re sitting on.

GP: Yeah and so if you’re sitting on oil, you are sitting on a powder keg. So that’s the danger. I would look out, always look for the news that they are not telling you about. If they are telling you about Iraq, you’d better look at the other side of the globe and see what the real agenda is.

AJ: I agree, so Iraq is being used as a massive smoke screen for the economy imploding, the IMF/World Bank moving, assassinations,
coup-detates and police state here domestically.

GP: Iraq is the weapon of mass distraction. They just want to take your eye off the ball.

AJ: Now they are saying that Iraq, Greg, they’re saying that Iraq is going to attack us for sure when we attack them. I say that’s going to be a CIA op.

GP: Well, what I’m very concerned about is, again, my concern is the lack of investigation of our so-called buddies the Saudis. By the way, my new book will be discussing the fact that the Saudis backed the creation of the Islamic bomb. And when I asked the CIA agents and the FBI agents, exactly what investigations were killed by Bush before September 11th, don’t just tell me that investigations were killed, give me an example. And specifically, it was something, one of the investigations was of Kahn Industries. Kahn Industries is the kind of private company which actually put together the atomic bomb for Pakistan. Now, we’ve got a nutcase dictator, Islamic fundamentalist dictator, in Pakistan, who’d become George Bush’s best friend. But this guy has actually threatened to use the atomic bomb, he’s got missiles.

AJ: And then the head of the ISI wires $100,000 to Mohamad Atta. He’s meeting with Porter Goss and Graham the morning of September 11th, eating breakfast. This whole thing reeks of a takeover. Thirty seconds left. What about this French meeting? What did they say with their mole inside this meeting with the global...

GP: Well, French Intelligence has confirmed that the Saudis had agreed to give money to al Qaeda. And, by the way, the terrible thing is because apparently they were slow in paying off al Qaeda, that’s why our Marines were killed at the Khobar Towers. It was a little delinquency payment, you know a delinquent payment notice to the Saudis.

AJ: Alright, Greg Palast, keep up the great work. gregpalast.com. I hope to get you back on soon.